Path to New-Gen Tanks

[Константинович7]

Type 74 (E) for example has undoubtedly better APFSDS shell, yet worse gun handling. I can be wrong but the Type 93 is the second best she’ll in this BR range behind the Taran’s 152 mm APFSDS.

XM803 has better protection overall, better mobility and gun handling, decent APFSDS shell despite the penetration values.

T-55AM/D-1 is a mid vehicle, 3BM25 isn’t the best shell but works, doesn’t have that much of mobility but works, gun handling is the Soviet pattern, terrible, the best you can find with T-55 in the designation sits at the Swedish Tech tree: T-55M, M1000A1 shell is better overall than the 3BM25.

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@Константинович7

Type 74 (E) for example has undoubtedly better APFSDS shell, yet worse gun handling. I can be wrong but the Type 93 is the second best she’ll in this BR range behind the Taran’s 152 mm APFSDS.

the top round is better yes. and the type76 is a good plateform although pretty slow and poorly armored and requires a specific playstyle.

@Константинович7

XM803 has better protection overall, better mobility and gun handling, decent APFSDS shell despite the penetration values.

xm803 has worse armor frontally (no spaced armor and no composite in the turret). It’s has a worse gun (that can’t penetrate the t55am1 composite without the atgm), and is easier to kill.

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@AlvisWisla

Leo A1A1 has a round that pens over 50% more, and is a significantly faster tank.

the added pen doesn’t matter, you’ll still bounce at range, the am1 won’t bounce the leo.

@AlvisWisla

Type 69 II has a round that pens over 50% more while having laser range finder.

armor and gun handling are both terrible

@AlvisWisla

Both are objectively superior to T-55AM-1.

where’s the objective part? What make a great tank is the ability to be uptiered and be still effective, and being awesome when top tier.

@AlvisWisla

M60 RISE is barely worse, and that’s only because of its speed. It fires a superior round with a similar armor profile.

you forgot the am1 composite giving it a t64a level of armor in the hull so not the same armor profile at all.

@AlvisWisla

ATGM requires gun depression which T-series vehicles don’t have.

what did you smoke, it doesn’t, you don’t really need to be hull down to use them.

@AlvisWisla

Your posts’ defense of T-55AM-1 is like defending M26 Pershing. Good well armored tank, its rounds aren’t ideal.

it’s not, stop saying BS all the time…

[AlvisWisla]

@foxmeup
lol T-55AM-1’s armor is no where close to T-64 protection.
M774 goes straight through the hull of T-55AM-1.

That statement defeats your multi-quoted post.

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[Unknown_Memory_1]

Is there any photo of the Obj. 140 equipped with the 14.5mm KPVT? Or they never installed it?

[foxmeup]

there is the mount for it, so at least it was planned to give it, but as it never entered service, maybe it was never mounted.

[Unknown_Memory_1]

If that’s the case shouldn’t other tanks with missing machine guns get them? E.g. most French tanks, the TTD and others.

[foxmeup]

completely, but this one is premium and soviet so i guess it’s a true case of russian bias.