are we still arguing over the T34/88 not having a 88 KWK ?
or did you guys figure it out ?
i dont think anyone ever said the panther 2 was real im pretty sure thats something gaijin cooked up themselves
as the IRL panther 2 from blue prints would look very similar to a panther F
planned it would have a 75MM like the Panther Fs
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its was sametink that the nazis were planing to do but they didnt have resources and time
IRL the 88mm panther was a separate project
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According to the German record, it is quite certain that they stuffed an 85/88mm Flak gun tube into the T-34-85/SU-85 firing mechanisms.
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yeah makes sense since 85 isnt much smaller than 88 probably had to install a new recoil system they also fit a 100MM inside one so a 88 is reasonable
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This is huge, I was sure this was fake. +1 for Germany and Russia
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Insane that this is actually real.
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its not that crazy to be fair its got a 85MM cannon orginally 88MM not to much a stretch to fit ive seen PANZER 1 with a 75MM
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It was believed to be fake for 80 years with only one veteran having a written down account of its existence. Amazing that it turned out that one dude was not misremembering some other things that happenned
also the panzer 1 with 75mm is not using an encased turret, this is.
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If I remember right German cannons with there ammo was designed in a way that most captured artillery could be bored out used with little further modifications. Germany was banking on captured equipment to fill out what there industry could not. To the point some USSR equipment was found on the western front being used by the Germans.
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This poor SPG needs to be added.
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maxi made a suggestion for it i want is so bad imagine the recoil
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Can be in German TT only if Soviet get T-34-88 as premium/event as both countries operated this tank.
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This kinda feels like saying the UK can only get the Jagdpanther 14/15 if Germany got it as well even though both this and the T-34-88 were mods solely done by the Uk and Germany respectively
While I personally disagree with putting a 1 to 1 copy in multiple trees, I can recognise there’s a legitimate claim for the soviet tree. That being said it’s silly to deny the country who originally made and used the modification if it also didn’t go to the USSR
Because both countries operated it should be irrelevant it’s a German mod it should only go to Germany
No its not. What matters is whether it was on operational duty of USSR what clearly was.
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Its actually not copy. The gun was modified to have 88 mm.
That’s not what he was on about he was making a joke how instead of adding unique stuff for nations they’ll just add more copy and paste
thats why context is important