Strange I tought I told it allready somewhere near message 23, that launcher got good radar.
And when someone asks why it was so bad, that new pantsir is added, should I lie and tell how op and miraculous vehicle Buk is?
But yeah, how are your experience from BUK?
No you are fueling the narrative that Russia needs a new SAM as the BUK is poor.
When it is simply not the case. Russia do not need a new SAM
But they will get one and the rest of us just have to deal with it.
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Where I have told, that it needs new AA.
Fixing/buffing BUK slightly would be just fine
But in current state, it is horrible to use in most of maps and most of situations.
Another problem is basic Pantsir being free aa, and it should be removed from there.
And I have told it on another threat.
And now, let’s be honest and what is your experience in BUK , since you are avoiding that question like plaque
Because they use hot launch instead of cold launch
I dont have a BUK, do you need to own a vehicle to know its good or bad? Also dont have a Pantsir guess that means I cant have an opinion on that either?
BUK seems pretty good when played by a player that knows how to use it.
Great at dealing with multipathing that explosive mass has killed me several times in a Typhoon
And very hard to kill if the driver has moved the thing and not clumped them together in the spawn.
Super Pantsir is another escalation, it will make any DIRCM heli obsolete while protecting the Mi-28 LMUR and intercepting every piece of ordinance.
Hell so many missiles you can intercept other nations SAM missiles and have spares left over.
How is a Rafale or Typhoon supposed to operate against this new Pantsir? 6 Hammers and 6 Spice bombs?
It’s unecessary and for top tier balance a step in the wrong direction
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Seems, is not same as it is. It is nowhere near nato versions of 12.7.
Heck my personal opinion is I would rather look free BUK spamming instead free pantsir spamming.
??? How is biggest launchers hard to kill what you can see from miles away?
Usually those wandering launchers get killed by ground players, no matter is it buk, or some other huge AA launchers.
Buk would work , just by having minor buffs.
And noticed that proxy range is intresting, since I tested it, and shot 3 airtargets on it. only 1 time missile proxyed, all other times it went on direct hit.
And should I now start yelling for rafale nerf on ground since it just spiced me, no matter I was using launchers radar, and it decided not to hit on rafale.
And nope, I’ve still not defended that new pantsir either. I just hope it could be balanced somehow.
From the air you need to kill 3 vehicles instead of just one. The ground well take that up with map designers.
IRIS-T SLM you can literally roll while dripping flares and missiles will miss you can also kill it by destroying a singular vehicle.
New Pantsir is a mistake, unless they make the small interceptors useless (they wont)
Anyway knowing Gaijin they will buff the BUK and add the Super Pantsir
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2, not 3.
Yeah, if you get close enough of iris, it got a lot better hit rate compared to BUK , and many others.
i saw in the dev server it have 75G !
like gurl how you can even dodge that?
am confused why pantsir sm was added? is the BUK-M3 / pantsir S1 bad?
idk how to feel about this k-38km and all of these good spaa
We all know why but it is forbidden to say it here
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It’s not AESA, it’s PESA
(I know, fun police is here)
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So not enought russia get a spaa with good radar , 1700 m/s missile ,75 g overload , 40 km range this missile have caracteristic than te LOSAT missile. Afther reach 1,5 km have 300+ mm pen this how works?
LOSAT missile basicaly is apfsds “darts” ammo and for this need speed to more penetration. But this missile how works same? AA missile with more speed = more pen? in this mod add to other spaas same caracteristic.
its only 300mm at 1.5km.
more than 1.5 km the pen goes down.
please dont tell me a dart of 300mm is meta in 12.7 grb.
man u understand in front"weakspots" this penetrate leopard and abrams yeah only 300mm fut fair enought only wach with 30mm gun destory u gun and track after have time to fire on u missile…+ have a huge spall so realistic…
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And you have quite a few to toss if the first few didn’t hit their mark, it’s going to be a air and ground menace from across the map
how is this better than LOSAT 😭
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You have to look at the pen stats as you increase distance, and then you put an ammo box down and reload said missiles. I’m not sure, does the LOSAT get ammo crates?
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I believe LOSAT does get an ammo box, because it is a TD
the launcher can aim up and down, unlike the LOSAT
so you can actually hit the target