Pantsir-S1

Machinery of War Discussion Ground Vehicle
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15,30 or 50 is the range.

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Bad thing is that the Pantsir’s missile is so quick that you have a very little time to do the barrel roll, trust me i’ve tried.

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Radar range, yea maybe but missile range? Engagement range matters most

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Missle range realistically like 15 max, fired at 20 if it flies straight towards you without maneuvering then ye. But the missle have no energy after. The missle itself doesnt burn for long,and looses energy very quickly.

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I see players do it every time and evade the missles without issue. Another thing is, Pantsir cant hit anything flying perpendicular to it. The missle simply wont pull. But then you are not particularly good player with barely 0.5 K/D in GRB and being US main.

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Just enough range to fire your AGM-65G’s or the new most “op” KH-38’s

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How many times i gotta tell you that flying high and straight is the death sentence and flying low and fast is how to kill a Pantsir…

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I use the tornado Gr1 all the time.

Especially as it’s 11.3 and the Gr7 is 11.7. there is real value to running an 11.3 line up instead of 11.7. as you won’t see 12.7 CAS and downtiers are more common.

And that is irrelevant, So Germany, Italy and Britain can’t use their principle CAS aircraft because of 1 SPAA is kinda BS. Buffs coming in June should help a bit. But it’s not enough to defend against Pantsirs

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Noone really uses GR.1, lets be real.

I do. Nothing wrong with the GR1, can even kill pantsirs from outside their reach if they’re silly enough to not move in the minute it takes your PGM to reach it.

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And they don’t shoot down the PGM

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Idk man, i fly like 30 degrees to the side at 4000 m with 1 pantsir and fire a mav at around 15 or 13 km’s and then go cold. Works most of the times. If u fly low there is always a cancerous 2S38 that will boom boom you

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I was once like all of you in this topic,when Pantsir was added i was furious what kind of OP bs it is. They did SACLOS changes, i got the Pantsir, i saw it from the other side how bad it is, being constantly dunked on by M2Ks,Gripens,F-16Cs or the GR.7s and i understand now.

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That too.

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I am not even sure if you can shoot it down. Cause GBUs rn you can shoot and proxy missles all around them, and they still hit and never explode mid air. Meanwhile mavs can be easily shot down by the missles you have.

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At the end of the day there is 2 core issues

  1. you spawn well within range of the Pantsirs, moving spawn points away and maybe even adding another air spawn location would mitigate that

  2. most other nations have nothing even close to equal

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Fair enough

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PGM 100% can be intercepted. Once fired 3, all 3 intercepted long before they hit

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Sure, can move spawns even further away, no problem. However the second you cant do anything about. US and NATO simply didnt made any systems like that due to their different doctrine. And they wont be getting Patriot as Pantsir counter lol.

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IN THE FUTURE. We can get maybe spawnable long range spaa for idk how much sp. Maybe when we get the HARM and the JSOW’s. Now we can get something like… oh yeah, an OP strela at 11.3 or 11.7 like that one spaa Bradley that can fire the 9X

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The real issue is that russia has both the most capable SAM and the most capable CAS in the same tree for no reason.
Other nations should have comparable SAM systems.

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