That too.
I am not even sure if you can shoot it down. Cause GBUs rn you can shoot and proxy missles all around them, and they still hit and never explode mid air. Meanwhile mavs can be easily shot down by the missles you have.
At the end of the day there is 2 core issues
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you spawn well within range of the Pantsirs, moving spawn points away and maybe even adding another air spawn location would mitigate that
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most other nations have nothing even close to equal
Fair enough
PGM 100% can be intercepted. Once fired 3, all 3 intercepted long before they hit
Sure, can move spawns even further away, no problem. However the second you cant do anything about. US and NATO simply didnt made any systems like that due to their different doctrine. And they wont be getting Patriot as Pantsir counter lol.
IN THE FUTURE. We can get maybe spawnable long range spaa for idk how much sp. Maybe when we get the HARM and the JSOW’s. Now we can get something like… oh yeah, an OP strela at 11.3 or 11.7 like that one spaa Bradley that can fire the 9X
The real issue is that russia has both the most capable SAM and the most capable CAS in the same tree for no reason.
Other nations should have comparable SAM systems.
Systems like the Pantsir are what should be the norm for SPAA.
The Russian CAS is not that advanced because of the lack of basic optics and pods but it can be deadly sometimes
You’re joking right?
The new SU-25 mops the floor with the best Air to ground weaponry in the game, at 11.7.
Idk didn’t played that but i do think that the gripen is gripening right now (is better) even the F16C that has the pod bugged since 1 A.D
Britain could get the Supacat HVM, outfitted with ASRAAM. Would have an effective range of about 15-18km
Or we could just get weapon systems meant to counter or outranged the Pantsir (like the soviets just got on the Su25SM3) like Brimstone or ALARM
Yeah, before the Su25SM3. I’d tentatively say they had weak jet based CAS. But now… They have the meta CAS jet
German mains
A what? Su-25 and its Kh-38 is the only useable thing rn. The 16C,Gripen,GR.7,Tornadoes, all are better. Su-39 got its Kh-29T nerfed to the point you cant see anything as the seeker isnt black/white anymore, but you basically see normally like it would be a camera, so finding something is very hard before you get to range of SPAA.
The Pantsir is literally the best SPAA in the game, the Norm should be way lower, and the Pantsir itself is broken
Simply dont be main and play all nations. Then you cant complain something is OP until you played with it, cause then you can play with it and see it for yourself if it is true or not.
Best thing to do before you go to the forum(i don’t do that)
that doesn’t clear the fact that Germany exists and as all people who play topier, there should be a counter even if it is not easy to pull off