couldn’t have said it better
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jUsT dUMp CoUnTeRmEaSuReS
If only that actually worked, which it doesn’t.
But go on, keep trying to lie to others. It’s not impressive, though.
Cute flag, btw.
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nowhere did I say to just dump countermeasures… I said to fire countermeasures in conjunction with evasive maneuvers in series all the way down to the deck… you are literally just making stuff up.
The issue there is that some aircraft just dont have that many CMs currently. Like the Tornado. 56 total currently
28 flares and 28 chaff is probably not gunna do much to slow down a panstir and Id prefer not to dump them in an attempt to the buy some extra time to evade.
Now maybe when we get our missing 1200 chaff (and for the Gr1 and additonal 320 CMs from BOL), then i’ll start dumping a metric ton of CMs on spawn, But right now, that isnt necessarily an option. Especially when you consider the superiority of other aircraft at that BR, especially other CAS, like the Su-39 or Su-25T with R-73s
Hitting the deck does protect you from Pantsirs, but does also severly limit how you can attack. Not everyone has KH-38
Not as simple as that. Not all CAS aircraft are actually able to pull hard enough / accelerate effeciently enough to evade Pantsir if fired upon the moment you spawn.
Heck. Ive been shot down by a Pantsir. about 10-15km from the battlefield, whilst dogfighting another jet, so pullling constant 9-12G turns. So this notion that “all you have to do is turn to defeat a pantsir” is false.
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all your points are valid… but the a-10 has 420 (lol) countermeasures
In that instance, its a sub-sonic. Only so fast you can dive or reposition. I know a few who fly the Harrier Gr7 struggle to deal with Pantsirs and they out-perform the A-10 in every metric
8000 yards, less than 8km, and you’re flying in like a drone.
Yeah you willingly gave Pantsir/ITO-90M a frag.
Seeing CAS addicts defend CAS this hard against useless SPAA that can’t kill CAS is hilarious.
All 10 tech trees need SPAA stronger than Pantsir and ITO.
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lol I don’t even bring planes to ground rb
Even a prop plane can evade it from spawn if you dive immediately.
Because you probably were pretty slow.
This spaa is extremely over rated. Other than its amazing search radar its very flawed in game. I think the radar even tracks flares now. You shouldn’t be flying brain off into the battlefield and it will be less of a problem
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It literally creates a no fly zone for dealing with opposition helicopters or CAS. Anyone defending it’s existence in the game without NATO contemporaries is an idiot and lying through their teeth
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Except ITO is probably the best SPAA right now.
Edit:
Yes i know, different opinion than “russian bias” is getting flagged as spam now.
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Apart from anything else, for anyone who doesn’t have a Pantsir, or whatever SPAA is the flavour of the month or “better”, or prefers to use their own planes to counter CAS… you can’t rn because half the time you get shot down trying to find the enemy planes because the godforsaken air portion is 32km x 32km. Feels like that anyway. It’s like trying to have a gunfight with Muskets in a cupboard
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Well, the 12km range limit kinda screws it when the enemy air is yeeting missiles from 13-15km
You’ll want a pantsir for that
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You wont hit anything but straight flying planes either with pantsir on that range.
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something funny just happened to me I was in a t-80 U and got shot by a pantsirs missle and it killed me didn’t know that was a thing
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Welcome to overpressure
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Yep it does
You can front pen a T-72 Turms with a Roland if you get extremely lucky, its very funny
They can do that and i wouldn’t even care. You know what it would change in the game ? Nothing.