Pantsir ruins the game

So statistic change and Gaijin say “Now it is justified to stay at <11.0”.

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What’s the strongest CAS? High tier. Is the F-16 not any good?

F-16C, Mirage 2000… Fly up to 8km go mach one, only turn in to drop, then turn back perpendicular.
Unless physics change anytime soon, that’s still the method of facing Pantsirs.

You stated the f-16aj is the 2nd weakest cas. I was wondering what’s the best cas?

Aww, the other variants of f-16 are the best?

Oh, the weakest of the meta CAS is Mig-29SMT, F-16AJ is slightly above it.
Best CAS is F-16C… oh my finger didn’t fully depress C, my bad; and Mirage 2000 5F.

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because they have a 1.0 BR difference, they arent counterparts

That wasn’t the case before.
IIRC M247 was at the same BR or a single BR step above Shilka for ages, so they definitely were comparable in terms of that. That thing was by far the best SPAA at that BR for months.

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Yeah, it was barely owned and thus Gaijin didn’t know how OP M247 was.
M247 to this day is the best 9.0 SPAA too.

The Veak 40 sits at 8.7, .3 below the York. And somehow has AP shells. Please explain how the M247 is better?

Armor and tracking radar.

Howso?

The KH29TE the Mig29 gets is superior to the AGM65s. While yes, it gets 2 vs 4 that the AJ gets, if played correctly, you’d take out SPAA from near the spawn and land, rearm with another 2/use the KAB500KRs.

It’s not a strong CAS option, but it’s better than the AJ by a bit outside of FM.

AJ gets 6, not 4.

You really had to reach for that didn’t you, do you not think there might be issues with an SPAA relying on armor considering the turret is right there, let alone the fact that what expected threats is the M48(7.7) hull going to actually stop at 9.0

They both lack access to missiles, and there is no advantage in capability since TWS isn’t yet a thing for the APG-66, so its restricted to STT modes so if functionally identical.

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Fair enough.

Of course it is most OP SPAA in the game, compared to it FlaRakRad just sucks. I am not talking childish RB tanks games, but SB where you can fly straight from the beginning of the game with full load, therefore there are a lot more airplanes and helicopters in the air and guaranteed Pantsir in every match.
F-16 vs Pantsir is a lot harder than ruskie airplanes firing Kh-29T/TD at FlaRakRad.
Now they lowered the clouds, what a stupid move, so without radar lock and missile fire warning, Pantsir has clear advantage over other SPAA where IR operation is not possible.
It is just a cancer, of course ruskie game so ruskies have the most modern vehicles in the game, with game adjusted to remove most of the deficiencies of ruskie vehicles.

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Pantsir getting 80 degrees of search, opposed to NATO getting what… 20? How is that even remotely fair?

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I completly stopped using jets cause of pantsir. Tornado is without any chance. Its so depressing. It needs to be removed tbh. Otherwise the whole air part makes no sense. Except for russians, ofc…

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These things are considered equal somehow, and that’s not even considering the actual weapons, you cannot detect anything that isn’t 10km away with NATO radars.

It’s stupid anyways, all these systems work together with other systems that are integrated and shouldn’t operate alone, should just have radar coverage in game that the SPAA can utilize.

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They will never remove it. We’ll be lucky if they uptier it tbh.

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