Ingame panther ii never existed. It won’t come back
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The problem I see with that is Germany did try and where building it, but gaijin removed it “because it wasn’t historical” but yet the Ho-Ri is in the game just fine which as far as I know never even saw a prototype, the furthest it got was a wooden mock up, yet the Panther 2 was actually almost finished?
other than all that what is in the Panther 2’s place? really nothing the only thing Germany has at 7.0 is the Kugelblitz
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Ingame panther 2 was fully imagined by gaijin with long 88, Hl234 and transmission from tiger.
Send another german tanks to 7.0 to give kugelblitz a setup and problem solved.
That’s a genuine question actually. They likely won’t make the Panther II available again, but you can make your case that you had research started.
That’s the thing, they didn’t try to build what we have in game. The Panther II we have in WarThunder is extremely different from the Panther II that was built in real life.
It should still be made available in WarThunder, at least periodically, but it is an extremely ahistorical vehicle.
Ahistorical vehicles like Panther 2, T25, Swedish Sherman, Ho-Ri and etc should be fully removed from the game
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T-25 should be simply changed to actual historical version, preferably with a stab, T-25 is already kinda eh on its BR.
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Maus existed, the others didnt.
Or split it into several versions.
I think the opposite, after all it is a video game a fictional environment, so why not let vehicles that otherwise never wouldn’t have done anything and been left to die to history be immortalized in war thunder the most accurately they can?
from what I know there was plans to put a better engine, transmission, gun(like the long 88) and armor on the panther and make it the panther 2 yet that never happened even though it probably would have.
so I see no reason it cant at least come back once a year with the Maus right?
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There was a Panther 2 hull built in real life. It has none of the things you’ve mentioned other than the armor.
The turret was never finished but it we have documents on the Panther II turret and it would’ve been a 75 mm cannon. The transmission it has is a normal Panther transmission. The engine is also a HL 230 which is the same as on the Panther A, G and F.
Nothing of that was done in the end. And even if it would happen lets be fair it would be so worse than Panther 2 we have in game.
If you want paper tanks that will only open a dangerous pandora box, far more dangerous than one for other tank game.
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As i read from Knipkamp’s interrogation they planned to use final gears from tiger on panther 2 because Panthers final gears was very bad.
Maybe final drives was replaced with better ones
I don’t think tanks that never got further than blue prints should be added, but tanks they wanted to make and started making yet never happened should be added
We can get panther 2 from the museum as semi-historical.
Thats what in game Panther 2 is. Plus this got wooden mock up, just like Coelian
the panther 2 in real life isn’t what they would’ve ended up making on scale is what I’m trying to say, the one in the game as of now is the best the devs estimated the production one would’ve been.
which is the same concept of the Ho-Ri production, there never was a production model, there was never even a prototype yet that one is in game while the panther 2 that was being tested in full steal was removed?
idk it just seems weird to me how that had to be removed even though the real panther 2 probably would’ve been similar to the one they ended up adding minus the long 88 maybe, I don’t think they ever wanted to add that to the panther
The Coelian / Panther II / Tiger 10.5cm are all fake tanks
They never saw working prototypes, the Coelian had a wooden mockup, in the case of the latter two their guns literally don’t fit inside their turrets.
Paper tanks don’t belong in War Thunder. They should have never been added in the first place and were rightly removed.
The MAUS / E100 both had prototypes built.
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