Fake? the krupp designs for a panther turret with an 88 are real and production was issued to refit existing panthers right before the war ended
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If panther F and maus is allowed then Panther ii (in its correct form) should be allowed
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YES YES YES!
This vehicle absolutely has a place ingame, especially given that with its upgraded armor in almost every area, it would easily give the German tree a 6.3 Panther. Its new turret armor is a massive upgrade, the and hull roof /roof armor will help it survive CAS much more easily. The rangefinder with also be quite helpful!
As for how this should be added to the game, I suggest pulling a CV90105 and completely replacing the Panther II we already have ingame (given its somewhat fictional) and replacing it with this vehicle. It’s the best way to go about it, especially as it removed a paper tank in the process (and I suggest refunding/removing Talismans, modifications purchases, and Expert/Ace crews applied to the current Panther II if they go about it like this).
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the designs are real no doubt about it, however those plans did not get to be translated into real life as the war ended before any such refits could be attempted…
unless you have info ofcourse… in that case in all ears
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this definitely should be the one and only way, vehicles are removed from WT. Either modified to be correct or fully refunded and removed
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The turret of the panther 2 was never made either i dont get your point? and the panther 88 turret would just be a slightly altered schmalturm (that did exist), so its not that crazy of an idea to suggest adding it
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i personally would want that ofcourse, dont get me wrong. its just that, in the process of these suggestions, ive come to understand that there are certain standards that a suggestion has to meet to be acceptable. A Panther (1) turret incorporating an 88mm is by itself, not a vehicle obviously, and was never made. if it was made, yet never attached, yes i could make a suggestion for it, but as it stands currently, it was never made and was only a proposed refit.
The P II’s turret was never made, yes, but the hull was, and as a vehicle, it can still be suggested as the Schmale Blendenausführung was specific to the P II
while the 88mm schmalturm is not specific
although, just in case im assuming falsely here, may i ask @WreckingAres283 for a second opinion?
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For unfinished vehicles, the rules are clear: there must have been unique parts made for a prototype or similar for it to be proposed. An 8.8cm as found on the Tiger I and Tiger II is an off-the-shelf part and therefore does not count as unique, as example.
If anything (if I understand correctly in this case) there must be a unique turret, hull or gun built specifically for this proposed Panther variant + of course sources and ideally pictures to provide the necessary evidence.
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@simsimkek
seems 88mm is a no go, however, i have reason to believe i can suggest a Gas Turbine Panther…
imagine that eh? hehe
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Scary…
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Do the Gas Turbine Jadgtiger
If ofc if it’s not already done. Didn’t check.
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I read about this. At the time there weren’t many sources pointing towards this but I’ll give this another look
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+1 the real Panther II
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allegedly a few 88 panther turrets were made at the end of ww2 sadly no sources about it can be found anymore
thing is at END of ww2. at that time the panther 2 project was long dead. the 88 turret was meant for the normal panthers to deal with the Pershing and super Pershing which started to to appear
so the equivalent to the panther 2 88 is the t43-100 both the t34-100 and the t43 existed but they were never meant to be combined and existed in different time frames (actually the panther 2 and t43 projects have so much in common its amazing)
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This transmission has 7 gears forward, 1 reverse, not 8 and 4.
It should also be noted that, in case you wrote by mistake the name of the Panther’s transmission instead of the King Tiger’s (which does have 8 forward gears and 4 reverse gears), the real life Panther II has the normal Panther transmission.
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A +1 from me! It would be nice to see the actual Panther II pop up in the TT. Funnily enough, I was just talking to a bunch of people about the Panther II as I was considering suggesting the Panther II G Turm that the US ended up creating.
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Given that there are two turrets and three engines, it offers the ability to have two or three vehicles. Regardless of how it is introduced, I really want it! +1
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yep thanks for the catch, idk why i wrote the numbers wrong even though my source has it correctly stated
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now this we need
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