Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

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Full RWR;

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      {
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      {
        "name": "F-4J",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": "AN/APG-59"
      },
      {
        "name": "F-5",
        "type": "AN/APQ-159"
      },
      {
        "name": "F-14",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": "AN/AWG-9"
      },
      {
        "name": "F-16",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": [
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          "AN/APG-68",
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      {
        "name": "F-15",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": "AN/APG-63"
      },
      {
        "name": "F-18",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": [
          "AN/APG-65",
          "AN/APG-67"
        ]
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      {
        "name": "Tornado F",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": "AI.24 Foxhunter"
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      {
        "name": "Harrier",
        "type": "Ferranti Blue Fox"
      },
      {
        "name": "Buccaneer S2",
        "type": "ARI.5390"
      },
      {
        "name": "Mirage 3",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": "Cyrano Ibis"
      },
      {
        "name": "Mirage 5",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": "AIDA 2"
      },
      {
        "name": "Mirage F1",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": "Cyrano-IV"
      },
      {
        "name": "Mirage 2000",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": [
          "Thomson-CSF RDI",
          "Thales RDY"
        ]
      },
      {
        "name": "A-32",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": [
          "PS-42 TA",
          "PS-42 TT"
        ]
      },
      {
        "name": "JA-37",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": "PS-37"
      },
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        "name": "J-39",
        "detectLaunch": true,
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          "Ferranti Blue Vixen"
        ]
      },
      {
        "name": "JF-17",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": "KLJ-7"
      },
      {
        "name": "AAA",
        "type": [
          "1RL114 TA",
          "Gepard TA",
          "EDR 110",
          "DR-VC-1A",
          "PGZ-09 TA",
          "1RS1",
          "1RL34",
          "AN/VPS-2",
          "M-247 TA",
          "ESD RA-20 S",
          "1RL33",
          "1RL114 TT",
          "Marconi S-400",
          "Gepard TT",
          "Antelope",
          "PGZ-09 TT",
          "Type-87 TT"
        ]
      },
      {
        "name": "ZSU-23-4",
        "type": "1RL33"
      },
      {
        "name": "ZSU-37-2",
        "type": "1RL34"
      },
      {
        "name": "Marksman",
        "type": "Marconi S-400"
      },
      {
        "name": "S-125",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": "4R-90-Yatagan"
      },
      {
        "name": "9K330",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": [
          "9K330 TA",
          "9K330 TT"
        ]
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      {
        "name": "9K33",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": [
          "9K33 TA",
          "9K33 TT"
        ]
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        "name": "2S6",
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        "type": [
          "1RL114 TA",
          "1RL114 TT",
          "PGZ-09 TA",
          "PGZ-09 TT"
        ]
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      {
        "name": "Roland",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": [
          "Roland TA",
          "Roland TT"
        ]
      },
      {
        "name": "Crotal",
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": [
          "Crotale TA",
          "Crotale TT"
        ]
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      {
        "name": "Naval",
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          "Foot-N",
          "Type 992Q",
          "Type-275",
          "MR-103-Bars",
          "MR-123-176",
          "MR-102-Baklan",
          "MR-104-Rys",
          "MR-105",
          "Yakor-M",
          "Type-275",
          "Type 903",
          "AN-SPG-48",
          "MK25-radar",
          "WM-27",
          "SGR-108"
        ]
      },
      {
        "name": "ARH",
        "detectTracking": true,
        "detectLaunch": true,
        "type": "weapon"
      }
    ]
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      {
        "text": "hud/rwr_threat_ai",
        "group": "AI"
      },
      {
        "text": "hud/rwr_threat_attacker",
        "group": "Attacker"
      },
      {
        "text": "M21",
        "group": "MiG-21"
      },
      {
        "text": "M23",
        "group": "MiG-23"
      },
      {
        "text": "M29",
        "group": "MiG-29"
      },
      {
        "text": "S24",
        "group": "Su-24"
      },
      {
        "text": "F4",
        "group": "F-4"
      },
      {
        "text": "F4E",
        "group": "F-4E"
      },
      {
        "text": "F4J",
        "group": "F-4J"
      },
      {
        "text": "F5",
        "group": "F-5"
      },
      {
        "text": "F14",
        "group": "F-14"
      },
      {
        "text": "F16",
        "group": "F-16"
      },
      {
        "text": "F15",
        "group": "F-15"
      },
      {
        "text": "F18",
        "group": "F-18"
      },
      {
        "text": "TRF",
        "group": "Tornado F"
      },
      {
        "text": "HRR",
        "group": "Harrier"
      },
      {
        "text": "BCR",
        "group": "Buccaneer S2"
      },
      {
        "text": "M3",
        "group": "Mirage 3"
      },
      {
        "text": "M5",
        "group": "Mirage 5"
      },
      {
        "text": "MF1",
        "group": "Mirage F1"
      },
      {
        "text": "M2K",
        "group": "Mirage 2000"
      },
      {
        "text": "A32",
        "group": "A-32"
      },
      {
        "text": "J37",
        "group": "JA-37"
      },
      {
        "text": "J39",
        "group": "J-39"
      },
      {
        "text": "J17",
        "group": "JF-17"
      },
      {
        "text": "hud/rwr_threat_aaa",
        "group": "AAA"
      },
      {
        "text": "Z23",
        "group": "ZSU-23-4"
      },
      {
        "text": "Z37",
        "group": "ZSU-37-2"
      },
      {
        "text": "MSM",
        "group": "Marksman"
      },
      {
        "text": "S125",
        "group": "S-125"
      },
      {
        "text": "9K3",
        "group": "9K330"
      },
      {
        "text": "93",
        "group": "9K33"
      },
      {
        "text": "2S6",
        "group": "2S6"
      },
      {
        "text": "RLD",
        "group": "Roland"
      },
      {
        "text": "CRT",
        "group": "Crotal"
      },
      {
        "text": "hud/rwr_threat_naval",
        "group": "Naval"
      },
      {
        "text": "MSL",
        "group": "ARH"
      }
    ]
  }
}

All the non grouped threat types;

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M21
M23
M29
S24
F4
F4E
F4J
F5
F14
F16
F15
F18
TRF
HRR
BCR
M3
M5
MF1
M2K
A32
J37
J39
J17
Z23
Z37
MSM
S125
9K3
93
2S6
RLD
CRT
MSL

The display works as follows;

  • You get a tag for the Polar display
  • The tag will then appear in the threat list along side its baring
  • The threat name will then appear below that with a friendly name of the ID’d threat.

This example we have a “L” tag with a baring of 53 degrees and its a Crotale
image
In the generic in-game display that is ID’d as a RLD (Roland),
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4732

Bdw, Why is Roland a Crotale? Thats 2 separate systems.

4733

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This is just what was WIP on dev last. Hasn’t updated in awhile so I don’t know what the final version will look like.

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4734

The CRT and RLD threats are there, so likely unfinished.

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4735

And another one, how are you making this?
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4736

53 degrees to port*

edit: in that screenshot the lines on the display seem to be different lengths, does that show range/radar strength?

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4737

Yes

4738

Yes it can as does display strength of track in both displays.

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4740

tHANKS

4741

Wait, it is not able to detect this?

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How is it able to detect 2630 (Crotale TA), but not 2620 (Same radar, but one has a parabolic reflector, while the other has a planar array antenna)

4742

Detect yes, ID not currently.

4743

Cant see it in the code. So it will pop up as ?

4744

Yep, it seems things have changed since the end of the dev server:

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FPS seems to be Russian for RWR

Source

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Typically yes, anything not ID’d would pop up as ? or the NATO Band ID such as “J” for “J-Band” etc. What it does currently I don’t know. But they are all still WIP and I haven’t got access to final versions.

4746

So, in essence changes will not happen.

4747

Well, i would have a nice popup name for it, and 2630(But that one is called Griffon sometimes)
image
But sadly all my sources were thrashed with this major.

4748

No, no, no. I meant symbols and signatures.
I know that the internal indication of the RWR contains a short symbol, the course of the threat, its name and a line indicating the distance to the threat. (Perhaps I was one of the first who stumbled upon and posted screenshots of the new RWR on the forum on October 31)
The question that interests me concerns 2 points.
The first point concerns the short symbols that go in the same line with the course of the threat. At the moment, I have seen F, P, L and Y. . F marked Mirage 2000. P marked MICA. Y marked Su-27SM. L marked Roland/Crotale.
The question regarding this point is - what do these symbols mean and what other symbols are there?
The second point concerns the name of the threat.
Mirag 20 was called Mirage 2000
P was called MICA
Slotback was called Su-27SM
Crotale was called Roland/Crotale. The same question as in the first point - how many more names are there and what are they?

4749

Hmm, maybe Gaijin did take my mad rantings about the advantages of FMICW into account :')

4750

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I listed the short hand Ident’s above but the names as also in the XML table I linked. But here is a easier to read list;

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  • AI
  • Attacker
  • MiG-21
  • MiG-23
  • MiG-29
  • Su-24
  • F-4
  • F-4E
  • F-4J
  • F-5
  • F-14
  • F-16
  • F-15
  • F-18
  • Tornado F
  • Harrier
  • Buccaneer S2
  • Mirage 3
  • Mirage 5
  • Mirage F1
  • Mirage 2000
  • A-32
  • JA-37
  • J-39
  • JF-17
  • AAA
  • ZSU-23-4
  • ZSU-37-2
  • Marksman
  • S-125
  • 9K330
  • 9K33
  • 2S6
  • Roland
  • Crotal
  • Naval
  • ARH
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