Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

that’s what we all said… if Germany can get stock Lis… can we not get stock 9Ms?

“It’ll be funny”

but clearly the MiG-23 suffers ))))

Might take the opportunity to finally spade my German MF in Sim.

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but clearly the MiG-23 suffers ))))

Anyone who thinks the MiG-23 FM suffers should read the pilot’s manual, and then be happy it’s still overperforming.

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that’d be about right lmao

I want to eat the migs. We have the livery, but we can’t monch them.

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Ok the Tornado F.3 Early is eating good! With these new changes, the slight improvement to the fm makes slapping MiG 23s and F-4s a joy!

Managed to out BVR an F-16C, the previous fm you could never pull that kind of G

How are you managing that tho? My old trick was to get as close as possible before firing and then guiding in mine while notching his. Bols cant let us notch anymore while tracking so im not sure how your doing that to an f16 without just getting him on your ass as you have to notch?

I’m not saying it’s a 100% guarantee. I fly high saw the F-16 and shot the Supertemp, I broke off keeping the F-16 in the gimble limits of the Radar. I re-engaged and shot another Supertemp and cranked the other way while dumping a lot of chaff and my missile hit and his missed!

Tornado GR.4 “leaked” in the latest leak

Of course we don’t know it its true, but assuming it is I dont see how it would be implemented right now.

It either comes without Brimstone/Storm Shadow and isnt really much different to the GR.1 or it comes with them and is potentially too strong for the current top tier. I also very much doubt they’ll give it ASRAAMS yet.

My bet would be EPavs II/III and Pavs IV. But it will most likely be a trade for PGM.

Yea I can see it just being the Enhanced Paveways and better thermals, maybe 9Ms seeing as they gave them to the F.3 AOP?

Mayhaps. But i can see them keep the TIALD.

If it gets its hmd it may actually be somewhat okay (the a10c got it working for the missiles so im assuming theyll give us it). I would rather have nerfed brimstones than more lgb, limiting them to 10-15km would be plenty considering theyll be adding more advanced sams pretty soon with sead coming.

god I hope not. A better tpod over the Gen 1 TIALD we have now is what Id consider a fundamental core upgrade over the Gr1 / Gr7 respectively.

  • Litening III pod
  • FLIR
  • ASRAAM (or appropriate placeholder like Aim-9M)
  • HMS (ground only, though might be a game limitaiton and will work with AAMs)
  • ePaveways
  • Ideally a new A2G mechanic like ALARM or BL755s or ground radar (even just a CCRP overhaul)
  • BOL
  • TERMA

is the minimum im hoping for from the Gr4. Brimstones would of course make it perfect.

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God it better come with brimstone, that’s a defining weapon for the GR.4

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Are those GBUs any better in practice than the current ones we have on the GR.1?

Also, does the GR.4 have MAWS like the Harrier GR.7?

They add dual mode GPS/IOG/Laser guidence. You can choose if you want it to be GPS/IOG or Laser.
Nope, only while carrying TERMA.

So they can function as GPS bombs?

As Devil said it’s with the TERMA pod Which you would always take in place of a BOZ pod. It might have less CM’s but it’s a whole lot more useful. Besides you still have the 680 chaff in the other one and can run 120 large flares in the TERMA.

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Yes. No Idea why they’re not in game yet.

Yep, and 5x 500lb bombs means less wieght hauling around but should still get kills