Would chaff be that effective? Doesnt seem realistic to me.
Its WT.
Agreed an AiM 9M would have been harder to decoy.
If thats the implementation for chaff for nations that dont use BOL pods. It’s massively imbalanced
Wait a minute, why are these the pictures from the Snail mine DC? Except the HARM idea was new xD because Oshida and I had it allready solved that they are for the Kormoran xD
In a recent micro update dropped within a few hours ago, Every Tornado IDS variant received a nerf of ‘adding of 1.0M limiting bomb release speed’.
Can we have a moment of silence for all the poor souls who love to play Tornado IDS as their main aircraft or bought WTD61 at a 50% discounted cost a week ago…
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Played the Tornado F.3 Late a lot (maybe not as much as you guys)
It’s not good enough to keep facing 13.7 games. You don’t have the airframe to dodge anything.
Your BOL pods do nothing, chaff is so gimped right now.
Your top speed is irrelevant anything can chase you down.
But the most damning assessment is the AIM-120B jets just dodge them so easily even on low energy they just keep missing. The only time they don’t seem to miss is when you are both flying at each other and you trade.
I was expecting this missile to be deadly from 14-10km and it really isn’t. I was hoping to be able to joust with Russian or US jets but you cant the F-15 MSIP may as well have an air spawn!
Having tried to dogfight an Av8B+ (Yeah) got my ass kicked that thing can actually turn.
The Tornado and the KWS would not be overpowered at 13.0
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F-15C: Wdym, you have lower BR because of that, and you also have AMRAAM, skill issue. Rofl, lmao. LOL.
(Of course, Tornado F.3 Late has a lower 13.3 BR but it feels just a scam as long as it never goes 12.3-13.3 top match thanks to heavily populated 13.7)
I also tried to play Tornado F.3 Late after introducing BR Decompressing (Laugh) with stock improvement.
As a Tornado-lover IRL, I wanted to spade that plane too.
all I felt was pure disappointment with much disgust. in the current 13.3BR, Tornado F.3 Late feels utterly unplayable and a waste of time and SL.
Even though the AIM-120B and AIM-9M are marvellous missiles, with tornado fuselage… both are just pearls before swine
With their super-manoeuvrability, well-skilled pilots can even evade AIM-120 at close range, while Tornado only can barely evade Phoenix but can’t dream about evading a better one.
When I tried to joust with the enemy, I usually ended up with suicide to them and being prey.
same launch but they can evade AIM-120 of mine and can even take another approach later, but I usually can’t evade it and get killed.
Of course, AIM-120 is a good missile so If I can find bad-skilled newcomers I might have a chance to take an easy juicy kill with it. but we all know Tornado flies slower than 4th-gen ‘fighters’ like F-15C and turns sluggisher than them too. and bad-skilled F-15 usually becomes easy RP for our F-15C. not for my Tornado F.3 Late. because they can reach them faster and can fire missiles earlier too.
The impact that [Tornado F.3 Late] can have on the battlefield is overwhelmingly low compared to competitors such as F-15C. it’s very disappointing and disgusting.
with much exaggeration, I think the influence of the F-14A Tomcat which was brought by troll-squad might be even greater than Tornado F.3 Late at 13.7BR match. :/
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No one expected the amraam tornado to be meta.
You can get a couple of kills here and there but it’s not enjoyable to fly.
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No joke I’ve been run down by J35s and F5s in my F3.
It’s beyond a joke
(So much for a “low alt speed demon”)
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We expected a comparable jet but as always the US has power leapt! with the F-15MSIP
We are missing all the ECM things, the Towed Radar Array and systems the Tornado could leverage.
The 120 B isn’t even modelled as an upgrade over the A! It’s incredibly disappointing.
You also cant dodge the new Iranian Fakour missiles by the time they go pitbul they are too fast for the Tornado to turn and evade! (That’s been my experience)
It’s time for the Typhoon
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Even when they add the typhoon I’ll still have a sour taste in my mouth from how the tornado was handled. 99% certain they will probably never touch the tornado again after EF.
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I might get into Sim been threatening it. Typhoon will be gimped too. Just hope they take a turn off and make a patch about the Euro Canards the Rafale and Typhoon and not some fkin US or Russian jet!
What the F3 needs more than anything is it’s defensive suite better modeled. BOL at full strength and Phimat pods would give it the survivability it needs to be employ it’s weapons. (Especially if it’s FM was finished) But yeah, it was always going to be one of the weakest aircraft at its BR, little would save it bar ASRAAM.
But the “early” is finally coming into its own I feel. The decompression + MP reduction have been lovely and in SB with it’s current brackets, it’s strong, really strong.
But I was never really expecting the F3 late to be usable (at least in sim) till we see an 12.3 to 13.3 bracket, much as what happened with the F3 early. Which will probably be sometime next year.
The only relief is the FA2 is “playable” in its 12.0 to 13.0 brackets. But god I hope it’s finished next major. That is all I want from the next update
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Im still malding about the br increase for my gr 1, i had hope it would finally become something of a little gem as staying at 11.3 would give it a favorable br bracket to play in but gaijin, deciding to be massive cunts, moved them up to 11.7 effectively negating any of the positive changes they were rolling out with the br changes…
Yeah, that was total BS. And they didn’t even give it a reason to be a higher BR, like Aim-9Ms. They just made up a reason to give the 2x Tornados that cost money a buff
When they finally added seperate brs and yet do nothing for the jets it would actually help, like the buccaneer and tornado. Buccaneer s2 could be 9.0 in air or ground as it doesnt have any precision munitions and it gets chased down by pretty much every super sonic fighter at its br, which is quite a few…
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“Caugh Caugh…FGR 12.0….Caugh”
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i had forgot about that, but i think my ej kai at 12.3 has something to say about that… namely that gaijin have no idea what the fuck kind of br these jets should be at.
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Yeah… As always the split BRs was about tanks and not aircraft