Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

98-77 it is IDS

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Just wanted to clarify that there never was a “leaked” Saudi premium. It was always from the very beginning German. Whoever made those lists that were doing the rounds seemed to have guessed it was British and then the Saudi speculation came after that.

No options are entirely removed from the table, with the exception of the ECR change. It is in effect a different type of aircraft and this particular change is not one currently under any consideration.

Im afraid I’m not going to be able to deliver any news to you here today that I have not already given. As I said suggestion bug reports are welcome on any weaponry that can be proven for WTD-61 Tornado IDSs as long as it clarifies the variant and ASSTA modification. I just jumped in earlier to clarify that one of the images was checked by the devs and found to be an ECR variant. Not an IDS.

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Whilst we’ve got you here and talking about the Tornado. Any news on the missing slat code? or any other of the missing features and additions, like the radar for all of them or BOL for the GR1?

The what?

Slats are not separate from flaps, so you cant deploy them when wings are even slightly swept

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Ahhh

The Tornado’s are missing their leading edge slats I think it is and the result is that the Tornado is missing something like 5-10% of its high speed turn performance and about 60% of its low speed turn performance

Edit: What devil said puts it far better

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Oof

Dont directly quote me on that, but I think it was @Fireball_2020 doing some bug reporting for it and I think thats what hes said in the past.

Sorry in advance if it was someone else. Was a while ago

Arent the missing % compensated in the FM, there were some changes to it since its release, and iirc some of them were made as a compensation?

As its currently the holiday season, any news in general on reports or developments will naturally not be common from now. Most staff and developers will be on holiday in the coming days and weeks into the new year.

Leading edge slats being deployable at sweep angels is a technical hurdle. A workaround to achieve as close as is currently possible FM performance was already deployed some time ago.

Many aircraft in game do not yet have fully functioning ground radars. The MFG has some functionality due to the AS.34. Its possible this may be expanded on other aircraft (not just limited to the Tornado) in the future, but we don’t have any particular news to report.

BOL for the GR.1 was submitted as a suggestion to the developers as it was tested. But has not yet been confirmed to come. Only accepted for consideration.

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I think the FM has placeholder performance buff, but its wrong, or new info was found, or something that would mean an increase in performance but since there is no point bug reporting a temporary FM, they arent gunna be fixed until after the code is finished.

Yes, the FM has a compensation currently built in to account for what would otherwise be generated by the slats, to as close as can currently be achieved within the game limitations right now.

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How could this also even happen?
I mean they use the same Radar

This has been stated in the past (a while ago)

In reference to this bug reprot:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/lrYODXRjD4XF

The issue is, until the code is finished, the FM is I beleive wrong and underperforming by a chunk

The MFG has AS.34, the others do not. It has that functionality for those weapons. As mentioned, its possible it may be expanded in the future for other aircraft.

Would be good to get the Gr1B upgrade and get Sea Eagles at some point

Speaking of A/G radars the Bucc needs some love here. I know it’s not useful but I want it.

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Just gimme working Kormorans for the start

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As mentioned above, turn performance was already tuned as close as can be achieved within the current game limitations.