Could the tornado gr 1 ever carry Martel missiles?
Yep, 4 of them
God I hope they give them it. Kinda redundant with the pgms and all but I’ve been having a blast with them in the buccaneer and wish they were in the tornado. They just seem to track a lot better than the mavericks I’ve had the displeasure of using. It’s a shame they only track the ground from 6km out but they are very good at finding targets in the way there. Perfect for bringing into my 11.3 games to kill pantsirs.
Thats good to hear. I was rather disappointed by the approach they seemed to take with the Martels. Ive not unlocked them yet.
And yeah, no such thing as too many choices, would be good to get any and all loadout options for the Tornado. With Gaijin Nerfs, the Tornado Gr1 needs every buff it can get
It would allow for 4 guided missiles instead of just 3 as well, maybe 2 pgm2000 with 2 Martels.
In theory, you dont need TIALD for the 2000s do you?
That would replace a Martel if it did. But yeah, in theory you could run that loadout.
Auto RADAR mode who wanted this? the RADAR is so sensitive to chaff now and doesn’t reacquire makes the BVR/SARH jousting even more painful when any chaff in the vicinity of the aircraft you are trying to lock ruins your lock and then the RADAR spends the rest of that window automatically locking the chaff. Causing your missile to fail.
Just feels this update the RADAR on the Tornado is useless.
Lack of auto management was reported for the F.3 on day one.
My question would be, are you primarily using ACM? If so stop using it as an “everything” mode and actually start using the search and TWS modes. I use TWS to soft lock and only go into track when in range. Also using narrow scan on the normal PD HDN search mode helps with target selection.
It is a feature of the radar;
The main takeaway is that it transfers when a target nears F0, so you wouldn’t have held the track without the transfer to LPRF.
I have observed some… odd behaviour from radars since the major update. Was gunna give it a few more days for some of the post-update instability to be resolved before I start trying to get examples for a bug report. I had the F3 radar totally unable to see a Mig-21 at 3km at altitude the other day. It was wierd. So it might be related to that.
Though that was in Sim and Sim always has some very strange behaviour after a major update.
Out of curiosity, which radar mode do you use when you’re getting into WVR, and thinking of firing IR missiles? I find the TWS will start soft-locking and slaving the 9L to the wrong target.
On another note, I wanted to make a suggestion that this option is changed:

I think it would work better, if instead of locking your radar pitch to 0 degrees, would just turn off the automatic leveling the game currently does. I would personally prefer if it stayed at the angle I select regardless of my nose attitude, but that I still have the option to manually point it up/down. Should this be a suggestion on the forum or somewhere else?
I was thinking of a forum suggestion for the exact same thing. That setting is one of the most annoying when it comes to radars
I would love a option for it to be a button toggle, so i can slave and unslave it to my nose on a whim
That too would be awesome.
I switch to LPRF search, but most of the time I won’t need the lock for more than a second to check the LSZ. LPRF Lock > Check the LSZ > In the C? Fire > Break lock.
The F.3 LPRF mode is sickeningly good close to the ground.
Suggestion section yes.
I am using ACM the tempo of Air RB makes it hard to know what mode to select and as you are never launching a Skyflash past 20km the 19km ACM mode was good enough.
Why would the RADAR then try to automatically track the chaff and not the aircraft? The Tornado has a very powerful RADAR surely Chaff shouldn’t spook it at close ranges (8 - 3km)
But it seems I need to adapt my playing style.
Well, even if you lock using for example PD is will still automaticly change to pulse
It will if the target reaches F0 where it would’ve lost the track without the transfer.
But using the search modes allows you to start with the PRF of your choosing. ACM you run the risk that the target will be seen in LPRF first 50% of the time.
I must admit i have not played as much, but i did not had a situation where it locked in LPRF when it could have locked in HPRF
As someone who arguably plays too much F.3 there has been a few times where I was instinctively reaching out for my change mode key, right as the automation did it for me. Its working very well.
