Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

Well, i guess they fixed the f16c by making it gen 1 all around, and that dragged tornado with it

And here i enter to ask a questions. What even were upgrades from 400 to 500, and what aircrafts used it?

Double the zoom and a new thermal imager.

Thank you. Gen 2/2+ i assume, zoom would be nice

So seems like it is part of an overall gameplay balancing thing?

Couldn’t say without checking. Though Gaijin’s modelling the generation by just changing the resolution is a somewhat lacking interpretation. As an example the Litening 3 is a 3rd gen thermal imager, but has a lower resolution than what gaijin use for gen 2 in game.

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Well, if they buff some Tpods it would be nice. Hate the Gen1 pixel counting

Well no, they nerfed them overall

Yea, also those encoders, image lifters, photodetectors and all the other funny things

Reads as Russia doesn’t have a equivalent in game so we make it worse for everyone else

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Even for such a bad platform like the Tornado? That just sucks hard

Probably they want to give soviets tpods, but they only have gen 1, so to make it fair, everyone is being nerfes to gen. 1

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Don’t the French have a 3rd gen FLIR pod correctly modelled in the game currently?

yeah, damocles

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From latest patch notes:

  • F-16 (all variants), MiG-29 (all variants) Yak-141 (all variants), Harrier AV-8C, J-8F, JH-7A, Mirage 2000-5F, Saab JA37 (all variants) — in all-aspect pulse-doppler track mode (MPRF waveform) abeam targets can be tracked in look-up cases. In head-on aspect pulse-doppler track mode (HPRF waveform) abeam and tail-on targets tracking depends on signal return — to — ground clutter ratio. This means that abeam targets can be tracked in look-up cases and tail-on targets track range strongly depends on fighter altitude: higher — larger.

I’m not quite sure if the above comments on HPRF applies to other aircraft as well. Regardless, the HPRF FMICW waveform of the Foxhunter radar in TWS & PD-Angle-Lock (target tracking) modes should also be capable of tracking a notching (abeam) or stern-chase (tail-on) target in the absence of ground-clutter / chaff. There has previously been some discussion about whether Foxhunter has a permanent notch/stern-chase filter. Technical documentation refers to an automatically adjusting filter based on clutter return (so no permanent filter), but there IS a control for the notch filter in the cockpit. The limits of the control are seemingly still unknown (in a classified document), but I highly suspect it could be disabled entirely.

I have no idea how we’d start making a bug-report on that without diving into the subjects of radar frequency spectrums, sidelobes & transmit/receive leakage (all tiny on Foxhunter), doppler filters, Kalman Filters and frequency triplet identification. I just don’t have the time to write a short paper on the subject which would only be backed up by tenuous references for Foxhunter.

Link to last time I ranted about this, leading to a discussion with @Flame2512, and with our supporting documents: Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion - Page 202 - Great Britain - War Thunder - Official Forum

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Oh god…

Gripen can rip its wings in level flight, just saying
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Yeah it’s not known for its top speed. Keep it below 1400 around sea level.

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after flying the nado for a bit, it still retains the same speed characteristics at mach 1+, hitting a brick wall at mach 1.15 at sea level

After flying the Gripen in test flight, its a real shame that the Tornado F3 is still missing its HUD radar symbology. I assumed it was perhaps because it was something that wasnt possible yet with the game. But nope, they simply havent gotten round to it yet. I doubt they ever will now

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