Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

Don’t the French have a 3rd gen FLIR pod correctly modelled in the game currently?

yeah, damocles

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From latest patch notes:

  • F-16 (all variants), MiG-29 (all variants) Yak-141 (all variants), Harrier AV-8C, J-8F, JH-7A, Mirage 2000-5F, Saab JA37 (all variants) — in all-aspect pulse-doppler track mode (MPRF waveform) abeam targets can be tracked in look-up cases. In head-on aspect pulse-doppler track mode (HPRF waveform) abeam and tail-on targets tracking depends on signal return — to — ground clutter ratio. This means that abeam targets can be tracked in look-up cases and tail-on targets track range strongly depends on fighter altitude: higher — larger.

I’m not quite sure if the above comments on HPRF applies to other aircraft as well. Regardless, the HPRF FMICW waveform of the Foxhunter radar in TWS & PD-Angle-Lock (target tracking) modes should also be capable of tracking a notching (abeam) or stern-chase (tail-on) target in the absence of ground-clutter / chaff. There has previously been some discussion about whether Foxhunter has a permanent notch/stern-chase filter. Technical documentation refers to an automatically adjusting filter based on clutter return (so no permanent filter), but there IS a control for the notch filter in the cockpit. The limits of the control are seemingly still unknown (in a classified document), but I highly suspect it could be disabled entirely.

I have no idea how we’d start making a bug-report on that without diving into the subjects of radar frequency spectrums, sidelobes & transmit/receive leakage (all tiny on Foxhunter), doppler filters, Kalman Filters and frequency triplet identification. I just don’t have the time to write a short paper on the subject which would only be backed up by tenuous references for Foxhunter.

Link to last time I ranted about this, leading to a discussion with @Flame2512, and with our supporting documents: Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion - Page 202 - Great Britain - War Thunder - Official Forum

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Oh god…

Gripen can rip its wings in level flight, just saying
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Yeah it’s not known for its top speed. Keep it below 1400 around sea level.

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after flying the nado for a bit, it still retains the same speed characteristics at mach 1+, hitting a brick wall at mach 1.15 at sea level

After flying the Gripen in test flight, its a real shame that the Tornado F3 is still missing its HUD radar symbology. I assumed it was perhaps because it was something that wasnt possible yet with the game. But nope, they simply havent gotten round to it yet. I doubt they ever will now

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This. Please can we have an update on if/how this is coming along? @Gunjob
TIA

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poor gunjob doing overtime today

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Suffering from success

Great point, though let’s not forget that even when the Foxhunter gets that addition, it still will have to guide skyflashes which will get notched anyway (seekers are still modelled after the AIM-7E except for lock range and trackrate)

Finally got my Ace on the F.3, just in time to switch over to the Gripen.
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Not the first time they’ve “forgot” about us.

is it viable to replace the tornado GR 1 with the gripen in ground RB?
also flying the F.3 againstSU-27 and F-15A is intressting even if its historically accurate
but you also see downtiers against F5Cs XD

you can take both.
after spawn the fighter , the respawn point for the strike aircraft will not be doubled.

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nah first slot is taken by the harrier


but i might get a new crew anyway

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Surely TIALD would be gen 2 at least?

Tiald 500 yea, 400 Nope. Unless they decide where it will finally go, as tiald is between 1st and 2nd gen in game

Wasnt gaijin also planning to give the german tornados Litening II Gen 3 thermals and then nerfed them back to Gen 1?