What form? I was here before any forms were posted? Do i need to fill it? Am i excluded from the UK mains community? Was everything i did up untill now a fake?
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damn did we send you the wrong government form? damned MoD, so this is why they ended up with a Meteor missile that couldn’t fit in the F-35 internal bays lol
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I was at Yeovil during the summer and the QE display was amazing. I am slightly miffed and how we basically got the Invicible class 2.0 instead of the railgun launchers. I understand considering that we haven’t operated a fixed aircraft in over 40 years but some of our pilots were sent to the States to fly the Hornets so…
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Yes, the only thing i got from the MoD was the list of numbered Tea leafes supply for the next 10 years or so. I did not understand the meaning of it, so i kept it under the sugar bowl. Now it all makes sense!
All because that one guy decided that instead of making a usefull head, Meteor will have to be flown using fancy hats placed on the sensor, adding 196 inches to the total lenght.
I’m still convinced that it’s because the Americans are salty that Britain and much of Europe has a superior missile to them
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They are salty about the Delta wings. As you know, there is more Delta wing in Europe than it is Mcdonalds on typical street in America
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From what I understand it’s LM dragging their heels, Meteor compatability was supposed to come with F-35 Block 4, however that keeps being pushed back. BAe is currently working on getting meteor to work on the current blocks, but after the Nimrod/Haddon-Cave review, testing is very difficult and lengthy (basically any accidents in service are placed squarely at the compaines if it’s found safety reviews where not up to “standard” so they end up being very in depth), + the fins have to be shrunk a bit so we’ll have to see how long that re-engineering and testing will take.
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So it will be the AIM-120C for us then. Yikes.
Yeah don’t know why it taken them this long to realise the missile ain’t gonna fit
Well, probably things had to do with not exporting your weapons/plane ect, dimensions sent by paper ect, or just they could not find the middle ground like always.
Typical
You would think spending millions on new set of aircraft you make sure your stuff can work on it
This isn’t some new thing. The clipped wing Meteor has been talked about since at least 2015 (i.e. before the Meteor even entered service).
The clipped wing version already exists:
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I’m pretty sure the missile fits, they made a shorter-finned version, the issue is the integration, its entirely software ‘limitations’ which are artificial and placed by LM. In the original agreement the UK was supposed to receive the source code and be able to domestically, modify, upgrade and employ the F-35, well LM went back on that and the US refused to share the source code.
Now it can only be upgraded in America by LM and I suspect there’s some sort of agreement with the US defence contractors to support the AIM-260 which is coincidentally slated to enter full scale production the year before current Meteor integration. Given that Meteor is designed with NATO compatibility it is entirely an artificial limitation, and if they’re back-logged then they could always hand over the bloody source code so BAE can do it themselves.
Same applies to ASRAAM which laughably has to be carried on ‘wingtip low-observability’ pylons. Its still an external pylon lol.
This whole debacle is why the UK and Japan went alone and didn’t wait for NGAD or whatever commercial 6th gen the US makes, the US is not a nice business partner, they’re just the best.
We could just do what Australia did and hack the Source code.
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I didn’t even realise Australia had done that. I’m sure we do have some access to the source code privately but we can’t be seen to have it by doing something as blatant as integrating Meteor ourselves and then applying it to the German, Italian and other F-35 fleets.
WHY
Why do you exist on the tornado?
WHY are you a different thing?
I wanted to ask this for a long time
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There is a GP mk.1 on the GR.1?
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Scroll up so I can see it on the default presets?
Only this one is the gp
