Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

The GMR could track a moving tank out to 6.7km, a stationary tank isn’t going to be detectable at any range, but its primarily used to track buildings and ships which it can do a much greater ranges.

Given its limited range and inability to track a stationary tank at all the GMR isn’t of much use in game.

It did in later life get a “Moving Target Lock On” and A2A search mode.

To me the wording implies stationary tanks can be engaged as well as moving targets (obviously the range for both is small though):

nice, will still be a nice feature for low altidue bombing to spot them early on without necesarily using a spotting pot

Misremembered that one, given the GMR output I’d be impressed if they saw anything stationary.

I look forward Tornado F3 CSP Q3 or Q4 this year, at least it very good new meta fighter aircraft toptier and no suffer in Air RB

Oh I agree, I don’t object to it being added, just want people to know it won’t be particularly revolutionary.

I will also add the Devs were considering a rework for the ARI 23274 but I’ve not heard much since.

Any idea what altitude the described limits on the GMR range against armour might correspond to?
“low level” is vague but it seems quite natural to me that it’d be short in the low level domain Tornado was supposed to operate at, simply because of obstruction by terrain features.
At higher altitudes it might have a greater detection and acquisition range, but so would any AA threats that the Tornado typically flies low to avoid, and therefore wasn’t considered worth characterising

On the M2K-5F with Damocles, PGM still refuses to fire until around 6-7km away when previously on dev server they’d fire at 20km away. Might put in a report today.

Yeah, I think that is exactly the issue, just artificial range capping causing issues, especially in SB. I think it might also be causing some to miss if you dropped from too high. Im not sure how good they are at adjust their alt when dropped from high alt but close range

Do you have stage 2g scan angle mode limits?, the actual angle limit in adv is from type w

The angle limits in game have always been for the final version of the Foxhunter, as they come from a manual dated just before the F.3 was retired. The scan patterns need some work, but the mechanical limits of the radar are correct.

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Are they? Currently the scan/mech limit is ±60°, I thought it was ±56°.

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Yep, it’s ±60° in game.

Ok, just to understand

And About skyflash ST issues? Like explode sometimes: losing track, bugs, the monopulse seeker feels like dont filter the ground in low level target, low damage some times.

And about performances? The super temp should not pull 30g because was had a new aerodynamic improvements? New seeker?, which is basically like the old skyflash but a new engine

The super temp should not pull 30g because was had a new aerodynamic improvements?

The SuperTEMP retained the same 25g maneuverability of the regular Skyflash.

New seeker?

The seeker performance was pretty much the same as regular Skyflash.

basically like the old skyflash but a new engine

The only real changes to the SuperTEMP were a new engine and slightly less drag.

the monopulse seeker feels like dont filter the ground in low level target

I’ve made numerous reports about that. It should be able to hit targets flying at 100 ft altitude.

Like explode sometimes: losing track, low damage some times.

If that happens you should get a video of it (and a log file) then either make a report or post it and tag @Gunjob to take a look and decide if it’s a valid issue.

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correction, its not anymore, guess that fix went off my radar. So ye its the scan patterns which are the issue.

I wonder Tornado F3 CSP (Capability Sustainment Programme) mounted AIM-9M ?

But I’m not sure that Tornado F3 in UK tech tree got AIM-9M ?

AIM-9M was a gulf war modification well before CSP, and CSP replaced the sidewinders all together with ASRAAM.

I dont think we’ll see Aim-9M until we get some overhauls on how CMs are handled. But I do hope we see them sooner rather than later. We could do with an upgrade over the Aim-9Ls in their current state