Words can not explain how irritating it is that the fuel tanks do not change with the camouflage scheme.
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Can anyone find any images of the tornado using LR25 rockets?
German Tornado teams are melting like ice in a desert. Just tried to play this WTD61 thing and ended up in a team made off by 50% Tornados. Was over within 5 minutes with almost no losses for the enemy team. The strike versions have no buisiness at the current BR. To big, too slow, just two IR missiles.
Also didn’t AIM-9L now getting spoofed by a single flare. This makes the loadout even more problematic. Just two missiles, which need asleep enemies to actually hit.
Assta1 at BR 11.7? The others at 11.3? Never. These things need a massive RB decrease and an airspawn.
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All other Ger Tornado versions won’t have any additional benefits for War Thunder. At least if Gajin stays with their typical reasoning for Germany. It’ll remain a useless brick with some bombs and thats it.
Other countries might get alot stuff they never used, never had, was never existing. For Germany they can’t even allow to use Maverick triple mounts (cause didn’t bought them). Or flares for the Mig-23BN, which gets so badly Strela’ed that its just useless. For Germany everything needs to be 100% accurate and historically correct. Couldn’t even allow to mount GBU-24 on Nado wing Pylons for whatever reasons. It supports the weight and the heavy weight Pylons are all technically identical. But theres no photo…so no. Its totally ok to mount double 1000 lb bombs, but a 2000lb GBU is obviously a no go.
There won’t be any useful Tornados without PGM500, Mavericks or Brimstones. Laser guided bombs simply don’t work in GRB high tier matches. Tried everything, ASSTA Tornado is useless, gets always Pantsir’ed while trying to use this laser guided nonsene against 20km SAM trucks which won’t even trigger RWR alerts. So you spawn your almost 900 spawn point thing for just no benefit. Gets hardcountered by 90 spawnpoint truck and thats it. You spawn, you fly a few seconds. You die without warning. Ok, you might dive down to tree top level, but what then? You can’t really use GBUs and target pods while scratching tree tops at Mach1.
The dumb bombs Tornados are even worse. Good luck doing some bomb runs vs. high tier ground units, proxy HE systems immeadetly snipe you out of the sky, or any SAM. Dropping 1000lb bombs on tanks might be a thing for low BRs. Its especially strange since at the same BR bracket Jagues etc. in fact have GBUs in WT. Its just not fair. One 10.3 Strike jet drops GBUs. 10.3 Tornado just gets 1000lb dumb bombs???
Gajin should have been a bit creative here.
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First of all they just moved a lot of the BRs up in range by adding 13.7 so it helps a lot with the Tornado. Second, the Tornado has not place being under 11.0. Having a supersonic platform with flares and AIM-9Ls should be no where near aircraft with no flares.
2 wrongs don’t make a right. Germany shouldn’t get weapons they never used. Same as other countries getting weapons they never used. Its like how they gave the F-16A in Italy AIM-9Ls and AIM-7Ms. It shouldn’t even be using AIM-7Ms cause Italy went through a upgrade program to use AIM-120s. It should also be using AIM-9L/I’s and not normal AIM-9Ls.
Just cause other countries get weapons they shouldn’t get doesn’t mean we can just throw everything out the window and give a P-26 AIM-9Ms. They should remove the weapons that are inaccurate off of other countries vehicles.
First of all the Tornado is one of the fastest platforms to have GBUs with a more advanced RWR. The engagement ceiling is way higher then a Jag, TRAM or AMX. Second you’re acting as if the Pantsir isn’t a issue to every aircraft. I can’t even fly my F-15 if one is on the map, its pretty much a no fly zone. You cant even use helicopters cause of the range of it. Don’t say the Tornado should get unbalanced weapons like Brimstone just cause SPAA is actually good now. This is how it should be, if there’s a SAM system or SPAA in the area it should be a no fly zone like it is IRL.
SPAA isnt good.
the Pantsir is good.
theres a difference
i propose similar BR’d vehicles [1] and then… we can call SPAA good.
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still looks goofy as duck, but i am not sure the missles still would be equalish
well unless we get the 50km range one
(researching into it)
What an argument. You’re not fast enough to fly away from SAMs. For GRB the weapon system matters much more than the plane. Whats the difference whether you go with Mach 1.3 or bit slower. Just the weapon matters. Su25 as subsonic platform is op in GRB, thx to its super targeting pod and extreme long range missiles. Tornado as fast strike jets is a laughing stock, cause it just got bombs.
Its the fact they it can fly much higher then pretty much all the aircraft that are able to carry GBUs in 10.0 - 10.7 range. No SPAA or SAM would be able to kill it in that BR.
Tornado should be 12.7, but it should also get its common subsystems to be competitive.
Yeah, and let’s do it on GER side all the time because they lost the war 80 years ago.
Cmon man, this is getting tiring. Everybody and their dog knows who gets screwed when it comes to balancing on “principle”. We’re waiting for 12 years on balancing on “principle” GER WW2 BRs, but that ain’t gonna happen. So, as it’s pretty obvious, GET TT is treated as a cannon fodder for “Allies” and that’s fine, as long as GJ puts that on the box cover so that everyone understands that prior to creating a WT account.
What
No
What kind of “common subsystems”?
Its just uptalking a garbage plane. Ground Strikers are defined by their wweapon systems. 1000 lb bombs are a thing when mounted on a P-47 to drop it on WW2 tanks. 1000lb’s on a 11.3 plane are super hot garbage. Laser guided bombs are a thing around BR 10 - 10.7 BR. You see some jets using it in the 9-10 bracket with success. GBU on a max BR jet for Ground Forces are also not really good. At max BR you have no change to use this mechanic without getting SAM’ed.
The Tornado’s underutilised. It’s an interdictor not a tank destroyer. Should be used to bomb power plants, factoid, frontline airfields, ammo depots, all the lot.
2 Tornado IDS from Manching (98+59 and 98+60) are heading to Edwards AFB in CA for some testing.
the question is: what are they testing
Hey, US Tornados coming soon?
probably testing a new weapon
if they are then its either a new ARM, Bomb or Cruise Missile
Only time will tell.
the germans supposedly requested information on the AGM-88G AARGM-ER some months ago