Ozelot and Gepard 1A2 should be the same BR as other vehicles with Fim-92s

Matchbet, Santal, and the chinese thing are all, infact, different from Geppy 1A2 and the furry SAM launcher. There’s no reason to assume that since tank (A) is overpowered, that tank (B), which is entirely unique and I’ve never encountered it, is also overpowered.

Subjective based on your opinion.

That is because a 1k lbs bomb destroys a rank 1 SPAA and a rank 8 SPAA in the exact same manor.

It only does not have LWS, so is it hypothetically not OP because I do not see it?

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You need to actually get the bomb to the SPAA in the first place, and do so without dying.

Well if it’s a worse plane, and there’s no evidence that its OP (paper stats don’t mean shit), then called it OP would be disingenuine, same goes for SPAA, except in this case the differences between the different SAM launchers are larger.

Which is where airframe capability comes into play and is why faster and more agile airframes are a higher BR than those that are not.

It is quite literally the exact same thing, just without a semi-irrelevant feature that has zero use in air battles. Not calling it OP in this scenario would be directly contradicting my point regarding the other variations being OP. So it is not disingenuous.

Saying “well I don’t see it so it can’t be OP” is a horrible take. Imagine if I put a Leopard 2A7V at 1.0 but you could never see it. It would obviously be OP but according to you it is not because you don’t see it.

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It most definitely does


First image: full uptier 672 to spawn in a plane, 70 to spawn spaa
Second image: full dontier 756 to spawn in a plane, 110 to spawn spaa

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Yes, they should be higher BR, but they shouldn’t face SAMs.

If people wouldn’t be able to encounter a Leo 2A7V at 1.0, if it was put at 1.0, then it wouldn’t be put at 1.0, it would be removed.

And why is that? These jets face AIM-9Bs and stingers only pull slightly more than AIM-9Bs.

I said specifically you, other people still see it, just not you. Yet according to you it’s not OP because you cannot see it.

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Except being 2-3x as fast at any given point, and thus not WW2 aircraft.

You can endlessly dodge Stingers if you aren’t a bot.

F-86 can endlessly dodge Stingers.

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Stingers are all aspect, pull far more than Aim-9Bs, and spawning with stingers costs only a fraction of the cost.

I’m not following your logic here. Are you trying to say that invisible tanks would be fair and balanced?

I would not consider 3gs ‘far more’ but ok.

I think he is talking about air rb

They are launched from a 0kph starting speed and pull 3Gs more, combined with the fact that you are looking for them you should be able to see the smoke trail.

To hit a target maneuvering at 7gs a stinger would have to pull 20gs, which it cannot do. Are you able to pull 7Gs?

I’m trying to say paper stats are worth something even if you don’t face them. Making these vehicles balanced towards their counterparts, even if you see their counterparts less often.

“I see you’re pretty dull. The problem isn’t dodging Fim-92s, the problem is actually serving as CAS, when there’s an Ozelot around.”

How dare the SPAA do its job?? There are extremly few WW2 planes at those BRs and even fewer people using the ME-163 in ground battles. Its not like the Stingers are all that hard to beat as long as you have energy and speed

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And have longer range.

cries in F-84F

the difference between a stinger and something like a SANTAL is pretty large.

Well shame on me for wanting to actually use a vehicle.

So you cannot pull 7Gs in your desired CAS aircraft…

Local man discovers compression, world shocked.

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If you cant dodge a stinger in a vehicle, stop trying to use it. You have other options the f-84 is not the only vehicle you can use.

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Then don`t cry about it if you absolutely have to use a relic of a plane.

aww yes me other option, * checks * a plane that can barely exceed 500 mph.

@Pangolin_Fan what is your CAS loadout for the F-84F, I have the French one and will be testing if it cannot make a 7G turn as you say.

a-4b, fj-4b, f9f, f-86, f3h-2, f-100d, a-4e (if you can wait).

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He doesnt count those because they dont hold his hand with ccrp.

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