Can we have normal spaas that can’t see helis 100 km away behind mountains please, they can see and continuously fire missles at heli on airfield for planes even if helicopther practically sit on airfield 13km away.
Other option is to give airfield sams which would destroy all incoming missles flying toward airfield, no matter if fired from aircraft or enemy spaa, but only on mixed battles, i don’t know how it looks like at top tier air RB.
Last option lower heli brs a lot which will never happen, after all even helis without atgms start from around 8.0
I would like to point out that planes can ridiculously easy dodge ground to air missiles, it’s not so hard to avoid 8 missles, but for helis it’s impossible.
Buildings, trees and hills seems to not be effective cover
It looks like helis have huge “unhittable hitbox” which spaas can see.
Why so away, because of running away, also to focus on enemy aircraft in first order.
Planes can fly without problem, but helis suffers. It is like brs of spaas were designed to be balanced in relation to planes, but not helis. Gajing got stuck thinking all helis must be rank 5 or higher placing them at too much artificial enforced brs, because some spaas were struggling with some helis and some players if not a lot of them don’t grind planes.
For planes helis are free food, but for ground units it shouldn’t be like this. Like i said gajing balanced spaas in relation to planes but not helis.
The most fun i had with tzefa A hunting planes (miniguns, up to 3 - most helis don’t have this fire power) and lahatut, as it was useful but not overpowered at all.
But they still fire at me anyway, trees aren’t cover rather problem + they fire at me while they are behind cover + i don’t have even time to search where they are - their missiles are fired continuously and are very fast.
Spaas can see through trees, but helicopters not, it’s additional problem.
If only heli wepons where above blade but not, they will see me first with aimbot, thor and many others fire up, not straight. I don’t care where are their wepons, problem are their everything seeing radars
I just wish trees were effective cover and helicopter blade less visible on radar, so i would have a bit of time to search for enemy. Prremtive firing hellfires is pointless if I won’t have time to even search for enemy.
You need to use the heli right, you not being able to use them right is the issue.
Radars will stop finding them if you fly low.
The issue might be the proxy range of the missles, if the missles fly barely above you they still will explode and kill you. you need to actualy dodge and not just lower altitude after going into cover
i use helis and spaas myself, so i know quite well
The first paragraph would be true if data-link between different radar units were a feature in War Thunder—which is not a feature thus it’s just hyperbole. Helicopter anti-air systems had its damaging capability removed a long time ago because they presented as a issue for nearby flying aircraft that didn’t intended to engage helicopters, then they were removed completely.
As far as I’m aware every single helicopter in-game higher than battle rating 8.0 has anti-tank guided missiles because that’s a requirement to play the vehicle properly. Airplanes being able to dodge missiles is part on the airplane capabilities and on the pilot aka player skill. Helicopters can easily dodge missiles by using the terrain as cover and resource to cut line-of-sight with the enemy launcher.
But can trees be some kind of cover? This is all i want, at least lowered radar signature on radar/decreased effective range of detection. Also heli blade to be less visible.
they do lol, but still as i said, you gotta actualy dodge, spaa loses lock and will still continue aiming in the general direction, then the proxy missle does the rest
you ever looked at heli blades?
Actualy helis should have a way bigger radar signature, but they get unfair advantages trough reduced radar signature, multipathing and so on