i think what we simply need is just an SPAA made for being a SPAA, ill go search
also this AA system would be nice:
The Tarasque Type 53 T2 is a 20 mm anti-aircraft gun adopted by the French Army. The Tarasque is based on the M693 F2 20 mm auto-cannon and mounted on a light two-wheeled trailer that can be towed by a jeep and brought into action in only 20 seconds. The Tarasque can be used against both aerial and ground targets and there is a 5× magnification telescopic sight for use against ground targets and a 1× magnification sight for anti-aircraft use. The Tarasque carriage is powered by an auxiliary hydraulic pump which provides power for both traverse and elevation. As a backup the Tarasque can also be powered manually if the hydraulic system fails. 20mm Tarasque - Wikipedia
still it would be a nice adittion in 5.0 6.0 br for just to put a good spaa there, it doesnt have much info, it doesnt say if it has radar, tough it would be a good 5.3-8.3 spaa.
The AMX-10P is armed with the 20mm F2 mentioned above with 900RPM. It fires the same ammunition as the Rh202 including APDS. It’d be plenty effective for 5.7.
yeah, what im meaning is that all that we want is atleast some SPAA vehicles for teh tech tree, not just 1, but atleast 2 or 3
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there’s an anti air system which is a car that could be placed at 5.7 which is the same as AMX 10 but it would be 5.0, AMX 10 would be better suited for 6.3 or 6.7, hope that no one LEAKS CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS hell, this is hell.
The Tarasque is also commonly used from the back of a truck. I’ve got a suggestion pending for it already. Reason why it’s not in this specific post is because I went for vehicles that are already partly modelled in the spaa section.
Please, if we can give preference to multi-barrel anti-aircraft guns, that would be great. Because a single cannon is far too ineffective.
For example, when I played German flak with its 3 13mm tubes, I made more kills in 2 days than French single-tube flak in 2 years.
In realistic battles, it’s not easy to kill planes: either you get bombed, or you get strafed by them. So you have to shoot them down early, and another problem is that the planes spend their time taking different directions to avoid being shot at.
Shooting them down with a single gun, regardless of the BR, quickly becomes a handicap:
- You sometimes have to be extremely precise.
- In some cases, the rate of fire is simply atrocious (French 40mm, for example), which reinforces the idea of precision.
- Cannons like the 20mm AMX 10 don’t have sufficient elevation (I’m basing this on the AMX 10 ACRA).
- And finally, planes have fewer shells to avoid.
On the contrary, what I’ve noticed is that multiple gun turrets drown aircraft in a deluge of fire and lead, reducing their dodging options and the need for precision.
What’s more, APDS for flak is not necessary, except against the light tanks that bother us.
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It would be plenty effective while others have multiple 20mm at the similar BR so it would be not on par but much worse. It’s time to stop to ask for worse vehicles when France can have on par additions. Your reasoning is the exact reason the tech tree is dying.
Same problem. Single 20mm when others have multi 20mm vehicles. So instead of choosing on par french vehicle that exist, France gets a much worse SPAA that will make the playerbase shut up instead of getting a decent french vehicle.
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it needs a missiles thin at 7.0 like this one:
The Crotale (English: “Rattlesnake”) is a French, all-weather, short-range surface-to-air missile system developed to intercept airborne ranged weapons and aircraft, from cruise or anti-ship missiles to helicopters, UAVs or low-flying high-performance fighter aircraft. It was developed by Thomson CSF Matra (now Thales Group) and consists of a mobile land-based variant as well as various naval ones.
Skink 2.0, it would be nice smth like this
More like Skink that traded armour for mobility
now imagining if the R3 ad the skink had a baby and this would appear, French croissant shooter
search and track radar are on different vehicles, impossible to implement ingame
40mm, stabillized turret i guess (its a modern naval turret so probably), proxy round, thermals and APFSDS. Good. A bit worse in terms of firing arc compared to an AMX 10 TTB140 (stab, 40L70, proxy, apfsds, thermal tracking) but better thermals. It’s really down to preference. Do you want a pure SPAA or do you want something that can shoot stuff in front of it too and act as a light tank
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Personally, both suit me ^^.
So the best thing is that, instead of Gaijin wasting time and resources developing yet another useless and surplus Russian vehicle + a French vehicle, Gaijin can use the time saved to develop TWO French vehicles.
hi
Looks like we are getting an undesirable IFV and SPAA in one package. It’s definitely better than nothing, but still a long way from the stuff we could’ve gotten.
Guess I’ll be able to make this post almost identically after the next patch.
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I urge to add the radar twin 20mm spaa at 7.7, add the radar twin 23mm/25mm with 6 mistral 1 spaa at the same br of gepard1a2, add the 4×20mm 12t spaa at 4.7, add the 4×12.7 amx13 spaa at 2.3. And fix the absence of stabilisation for guns of amx 30 dca when it locks target by radar. Maybe the amx 30 javelot air-burst rocket spaa should be a premium at 7.7. The unmaned turret VBCI philoctetes 40mm can replace vbci mk2, this is more useful. And we should have a twin mistral 3 laucher on wheeled vehicle at 10.0. And don’t forget ELC EVEN 90, ELC 120mm recoilless lorraine.
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