Kontakt-5 is developed by the USSR, not Russia. It is used by both Ukraine and Russia.
You are mistaken. Kontakt-5 was developed by the Research Institute of Steel(as well as the relict), information from which is considered a priority.
When a company compares two of its developments, that’s okay (although I still think it’s better to look at the effectiveness of a specific thing, not relative to another). But when a company compares its product and a completely foreign one (and from another country), it seems to me that this will be biased.
I already showed you another infographic from Microtek above, where they claim that the Nozh is 4 times better, not 2.6.
How do you explain such a difference in statements?
You do understand how big a country the USSR was? Do you have any information that Kontakt-5 was produced on the territory of Ukraine after 1991?
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Why does it need to be produced there for Ukraine to test it? It was produced in Soviet-Ukraine, so of course they have it.
Are you so sure about this?)
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The T-80UD was manufactured in Ukraine. And I’m pretty sure still is. That uses Kontakt-5, so wouldn’t it be made in Soviet-Ukraine and Modern Ukraine?
The fact that the T-80UD was produced in Soviet Ukraine in the city of Kharkiv does not mean that all of its parts were produced in Ukraine.
Many items were produced in other Soviet republics and supplied to Soviet Ukraine for the final assembly of the tank.
Do I really need to explain something so obvious?
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The T-80UD has not been produced in Ukraine for a long time. At least study history so that you don’t write obvious nonsense.
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We don’t know what the developers of ERA “HKChPWSH” had in mind
If they meant ERA “4C22U” then the “HKChPWSH” elements are indeed better.
Moreover, they write that their elements are 60-70% lighter than their predecessors.
So why should we consider that the “HKChPWSH” elements are equal in effectiveness to the “ХСЧКВ 34” elements installed on the BM Oplot tank?
You can’t so frivolously say that “HKChPWSH” from the company УПМ им. В.О.ХИТРИКА is the same as “ХСЧКВ 34” from the company ГП БЦКТ «Микротек»
Have you ever seen a real photo of the “HKChPWSH” element?
It is immaterial whether it was produced in Ukraine or not, because even if it wasn’t, Ukraine had T-80UDs being produced in its factories, and after its independence, they were in service in its army. Perhaps for rights reasons, as soon as the countries separated from the USSR, Ukraine stopped receiving Kontakt-5 armor, but in any case they would still have certain quantities. This is why it makes some sense for Ukraine to compare the Kontakt-5 with its own ERA, as commercial propaganda, and thus be able to export its military vehicles to other countries.
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Because in the previous sentence the manufacturer states so. He writes that the elements have been improved from the old ones.
Do you have a photo that clearly shows the difference between these blocks?
As you said there are multiple versions of K-5 maybe one test was done using older versions where nizh was shown to be 4x effective, and one test with modern version where nizh was only 2.6x effective.
This is the only source we have for actual elements used in Nizh/Duplet. It cannot be “the highest value” because the source you are comparing it to with the ‘HKChPWSH’ elements is from a different company. And most likely not comparable to actual ХСЧКВ 34, 19, and 19A. Perhaps the actual elements do provide 80-90% reduction against tandem warheads.
BTW on their website states that this HKChPWSH element is 60-70% lighter than other Duplet/Nizh elements such as ХСЧКВ 34, 19, and 19A. Do you really think it provides more or even same protection as ХСЧКВ 34, 19, and 19A?
Moreover we only have renders of this new element, we don’t even know if they actually tested it or are these speculative values. To ‘sell the product’
Maybe not today, but didn’t Ukraine make parts of the T-80UD for Pakistan when Russia withheld them? That’d involve manufacturing Kontatk-5, no?
Also not necessary. I’m not saying everything I know is 100%, I’m not a narcissist.
It’s almost as if you don’t read what I wrote
Better to ignore this troll. He cant prove that K-5 is not made in Ukraine today, and even if it isn’t, doesn’t mean Ukraine does not have access to such elements.
No.
The given values coincide with the tests, as well as the data on Duplet and Nozh from Microtek
He also failed to acknowledge that I asked “Why does it need to be produced there (for Ukraine) to test it?”
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