OPLOT; inaccuracies, discussion, reports

It would explain why base armor is thinner than that of other T-series modern models. However, I repeat, the efficency is estimated up to 60%, not absolutely 60%. Thus it might as well be 30, 40, 50%, but because there are several rounds listed under 60%, it might not be completely 60% for mango

In this case percentage should be multiplied, not added

I don’t think multiple layers of ERA work that way

So what’s the deal with this thing ?
Is it BVM on steroids ?

As I said, I probably misinterpereted things as well. But I also don’t understand how come 19A and 34P are so similar given their obvious differences

To calculate the total probability of two independent events with a probability of 60% each, you need to multiply their probabilities expressed in fractions: 0.6 * 0.6 = 0.36, which is 36%

Why would Ukraine develop two cartridges of Nizh in the first place. Why are there Nizh-1M with one dimensions, and Duplet, that also uses Nizh, uses different cartridges? Even manufacturer indicates the usage of Duplet (34P) in turret and so on, but people, as well as bug report managers, define Duplet as 2x Nizh, if Nizh-1M is 19A?

Perhaps the manufacturer overestimated the Nizh-1M indicators. Otherwise, we get unimaginable values, which is when adding two HKChPWSH 34P, which is when adding HKChPWSH 19A and HKChPWSH 34P, because we get protection UP to 120% or UP to 110%, which sounds out of the realm of fiction.

40% pen remain after 1st ERA, and 0.4 * 0.4 pen remain after 2nd ERA
So it could be 16% pen in ideal condition. I think effect of ERA can’t be this high, but I agree that the effect should be higher than now

Idk, it is some bullcrap that manufacturer themselves know, and because devs misidentify elements used in Nizh and Duplet, one thing turns out to be overperforming even tho it shouldn’t and the other underperforms even tho it shouldn’t

bruh. m8 You are making such a basic math mistake. Lets say we have dart with 100 pen. First ERA layer takes 60% 100x60%=40, second layer will deal with remaining 40. 40x60% = 24.

The last one is 40% * 40%

I am trying to find a logical solution to prove bug reporters that no way 2x Duplet doesnt stop 3BM42 to its max efficency. And how come 3x 34P 0° cannot stop God damn 3BM15

100x60%=40??? What?

Woops. But you get the idea. It won’t be 120%

He didn’t express it properly. Esentially, if pen is 100mm, and each tile reduces efficency by 60%, it is not like both plates combine and negate 120mm of 100mm pen, but that first tile negates 60% of 100mm, thus leaving 40mm pen, and second tile reduces 40mm pen by another 60%, thus leaving 16mm of pen.

It would also greatly explain video of live firing 3BM42 on hull with Duplet-2M, as the “leftover” perforation on sloped hull after Duplet was ~40mms.

Okay, let’s start with the reverse. The first block will remove 60%, then 40% of the projectile will go, the second block will remove 60% of the remaining 40% = 24%, we will get an overall efficiency of 60 + 24 = 84%. Then why didn’t the manufacturer mention it right away in his booklet?

As I said in “yapping” comment: manufacturer probably meant that component used in Duplet is model 34P, which each individual tile reduces by 60%. Manufacturer explained Nizh in the same way: the component used is model 19A, and it reduces pen by 50%.

The problem I face is the fact that manufacturer does not precise what model of element is used in each reactive armor system (as manufacturer desrcibes it on official site btw), and that’s the reason why devs are confused with how to model different types of reactive armor systems (Nizh and Duplet) with different elements, and they take the brochure that a) doesn’t state the element used and b) for a reason I explained shows not 1 but 2 tiles, but stats are for individual tiles, as, for example, turret uses 6x Duplet with variable layers per section, thus writting 84% is wrong because buyer wouldn’t understand how many protection each tile individually provides

@Джахед Did anyone even try to explain devs difference between 34P and 19A and where these models are used, how absurd it is?

Or am I tripping?

It’s not that important

I already explained why the developers estimated ERA incorrectly

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