Too many people confuse what we have now, a premium bias, with russian bias.
F18C/A early is an example of this rn.
Or as was stated the T80U-E1 being better than its TT counter part.
Reckon could lump the ram saagol in there as well as its the same BR as the merkava Mk3s but has the additional composites (while it sucks its still better than the TT counterparts from what I’ve seen)
Like the the 10.3 UD is clearly better than the two T-72B almost everywhere, reload, zoom, and having composite armor extend to the lfp, or maybe the B can go down to 10.0 because they kinda sucks to be honest.
nah they should stay at 10.3, 9.0s would get hammered by them, sure some can out do them but they aren’t bad 10.3s.
The T80UD should be 10.7 ive been saying this for ages. its literally a side grade to the T80B
Nah I would say M1A2 < T-80BVM = SEPv1.
Honestly the 2A7s/122s should move to 12.7 at least, tanks like the Type 10s, BVM and SEPv1 should move to 12.3, the M1A2, SEPv2 and T-90M should move to or stay at 12.0 and the M1A1 HC/CB should lose M829A2 and stay 11.7.
And regarding the T-80U-E1. Either it should get a better round, like 3BM60, and move to 12.0 or it should get some sort of disadvantage over the T-80U to justify the same BR.
(of course these BRs are only examples, I would prefer even further decompression)
The extra composite doesn’t actually do too much in terms of protection iirc, the Mk.3B/C side turret composite is already pretty strong. It’s mainly useful in baiting people to shoot empty space.
I see everyone here speaking about HE-VT for the guns and such, I’m moreso wondering where is this thing’s APDS? It’s own brochures show that it can fire APDS.
Its the only KDA equipped 8.3 SPAAG that lacks APDS. If its not getting APDS it should be getting some other round to compensate the vehicle.
The problem is, is it has that single ammo belt. The Gepards get APDS due to an “emergency belt” of ammuntion, hence the 40 rounds. Because this only gets one belt total, it means you would only be able to bring an entire belt of APDS.
That does not sound like a problem to be given the fact that it’s marketing brochure directly references it’s ability to use the rounds.
Either leave the APDS off and move it down in BR, or give it the rounds it historically can use, as it stands it is artificially gimped weapon performance wise and is directly inferior to all other KDA equipped vehicles due to it.
the proxy ammo was barely experimental and not ready at all so it cant be added. its a better gepard tbh. more armour, faster turret as well as no wide AF gap between ur guns
it should also have more ammo than the gepard but we need confirmation and documents to bug report
the belt side is way larger
possibly. i suggest looking into IDR
Have you ever even played it? I can survive many hits in it by mutiple enemies as long as it’s not a HE slinger but by the time they see you they would already be desintegrated
Yes and its tankier then a M60 for Mẹ because the turret basket always eat rounds.
Not a good argument against. Lots of things in this game are experimental and/or not ready/functional at all, like:
Yak 141 (No Guns/Radars/Missiles ever equipped and tested)
MiG-9 (Guns did not function on original fighter models at High Alts)
T-34-100 (Gun cracked the turret after firing a couple times)
F-16AJ (Non-existant)
R2Y2s (Planned at most; never built or tested. Paper design fully)
Maus/E-100 (Non-complete; a turret and a hull for testing)
MBT-70/KPZ-70/XM-803 (Experimental Disaster)
M551 Sheridan (Gun-Launcher issues; prone to Spontaneous Combustion).
Not saying you can’t use it as an argument, just that. It’s a poor argument with all else we have in game.
disaster❌
expensive af✅
It can be both. Being expensive AF still makes it a disaster. Plus, it retained the Gun-Launcher tube which was always problematic.
the army wants jack of all trade instead they get master of nothing
I wrote this like a day or 2 after it released on the live server, so the armor was a bit worse than it currently is. It wasn’t that good in the first few days of release but it’s become of of the best SPAAs for the tier. The only bad thing about it is the incorrect radar but it’s pretty good overall.
My meaning was more along the lines that the ammo was either not made by that time (only advertised) or didnt work.
Cuz either way if 246 gets it, gepard can also get it.
But the ammo was mpstly just a proposal.
If you wouldn’t mind it instantly going to 9.0 minimum? Sure.
The Falcon went to 8.3 because of it’s belt, if you really think the XM246 with 640 rounds of full APDS belt would stay 8.3 you are delusional.
It’s a sidegrade. Better armor for far worse mobility.