The M1A1 HC is almost identical to the M1A2 now adays, the distinction used to be the m829A1 rather than the A2.
Infact the HC is identical to the M1A2 now.
it is not identical, HC has IRCM and can equip dozer blade while M1A2 has CITV
Short of a useless dozer and useless IRCM which as it stands are nearly cosmetic.
The armour and firepower are identical, mobility is identical.
Seeing as I have them, and BTW as far as im aware the M1A2 doesnt have CITV if by that you mean commanders thermals. the M1A2 sep and sep v2 get it though.
CITV, Commanders Independent Thermal Viewer
M1A2 does have one
so do SEP and SEPv2
Ill need to check when im on the game again but certainly didnt have one when i was using it last which was only two weeks ago xD
iirc its had it since it was added
Aye I see where I fked up, its got the commanders sight and thermals but theyre gen one, when the sepV2 and such is gen 2 thermals.
Apologies mate, but lets be honest, the only slightly useful upgrade is the CITV and even thats not much to go off, the tanks are still functionally identical.
The M1A1 HC has the same armour, same weapon system, same gunner thermals, optics, same mobility, and arguably the dozer blade is a negative as it means its harder to disguise the tank.
IRCM at that BR is useless anyways unless some poor sods brought a marder or something up to top tier.
The M1A1 HC, and A2 should both be 12.0 vehicles.
Or the M1A1 HC loses M829A2 and stays 11.7 while the A2 moves up to 12.0.
(M1A1 Click- Bait should never have gotten m829A2 without a BR step up.)
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Dozer blade acts as a free armor while at the same time not really limiting gun depression, as for some reason gun can clip through the dozer.
yeah I was just trying to say they arent quite identical
if anything I slightly prefer the HC because people tend to take slightly longer to aim and are more likely to mess up a shot when you have the dozer blade on.
Or the T-80U-E1, which is better than the TT T-80U while being at the same BR.
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This is justified bro, paid customers should receive special privileges!
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the slight amount of armour it gives for giving away the coverage of bushes for me is negligable and not worth it at all man.
Never had that at all with the HC i do worse with it than the M1A1 as the blades given my position away due to it sticking out and not being covered with me camoflauge.
never has it saved me from a round especially at the BR its at, on the chieftain sure but at 11.3 and now 11.7 never.
As I said premium bias mate.
however an M1A2 is substantially better than the T80U for the same BR.
tis comparable to the T80BVM which sits at 12.0
Too many people confuse what we have now, a premium bias, with russian bias.
F18C/A early is an example of this rn.
Or as was stated the T80U-E1 being better than its TT counter part.
Reckon could lump the ram saagol in there as well as its the same BR as the merkava Mk3s but has the additional composites (while it sucks its still better than the TT counterparts from what I’ve seen)
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Like the the 10.3 UD is clearly better than the two T-72B almost everywhere, reload, zoom, and having composite armor extend to the lfp, or maybe the B can go down to 10.0 because they kinda sucks to be honest.
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nah they should stay at 10.3, 9.0s would get hammered by them, sure some can out do them but they aren’t bad 10.3s.
The T80UD should be 10.7 ive been saying this for ages. its literally a side grade to the T80B
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Nah I would say M1A2 < T-80BVM = SEPv1.
Honestly the 2A7s/122s should move to 12.7 at least, tanks like the Type 10s, BVM and SEPv1 should move to 12.3, the M1A2, SEPv2 and T-90M should move to or stay at 12.0 and the M1A1 HC/CB should lose M829A2 and stay 11.7.
And regarding the T-80U-E1. Either it should get a better round, like 3BM60, and move to 12.0 or it should get some sort of disadvantage over the T-80U to justify the same BR.
(of course these BRs are only examples, I would prefer even further decompression)
The extra composite doesn’t actually do too much in terms of protection iirc, the Mk.3B/C side turret composite is already pretty strong. It’s mainly useful in baiting people to shoot empty space.
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I see everyone here speaking about HE-VT for the guns and such, I’m moreso wondering where is this thing’s APDS? It’s own brochures show that it can fire APDS.
Its the only KDA equipped 8.3 SPAAG that lacks APDS. If its not getting APDS it should be getting some other round to compensate the vehicle.
The problem is, is it has that single ammo belt. The Gepards get APDS due to an “emergency belt” of ammuntion, hence the 40 rounds. Because this only gets one belt total, it means you would only be able to bring an entire belt of APDS.
That does not sound like a problem to be given the fact that it’s marketing brochure directly references it’s ability to use the rounds.
Either leave the APDS off and move it down in BR, or give it the rounds it historically can use, as it stands it is artificially gimped weapon performance wise and is directly inferior to all other KDA equipped vehicles due to it.
the proxy ammo was barely experimental and not ready at all so it cant be added. its a better gepard tbh. more armour, faster turret as well as no wide AF gap between ur guns
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