Old 12.3-13.0 jets are falling behind


@SerPounceAlot : here’s the perfect exemple of the actual average players in USA,…

2 aircrafts positive KD (F-14A IRIAF and F-14B) - recently played, but clearly not good player overall,…
only works with One trick Poney that makes them untouchable,…

but still talks like if knew how to play,…

yet they still holds good enough results, when we have to deal with the kind of players, we have on the post above,…

I don’t really care what the playerbase spits out with statistics. It doesn’t align with how good aircraft actually are.

Oh, we agree:
i still beleive that IR Rear-aspect missiles at 12.7 isn’t good enough (F-14A AIM-9H instead of Lima’s)

but as said earlier:

because of the results they still gets in october 2025

If all you’re saying is that gaijin isnt changing anything because all they look at is statistics with no clue on how to read them with a pinch of nuance, then yes.

kind of, but also the fact that Gaijin won’t create space in-between BR’s

there will be no gap in the USA TT in Gaijin mind, because they do everything for it to not happen, so that every BR are filled with one or two aircrafts at the very least.


also the fact that they don’t play the game (or they play it so bad) that they can’t balance an aircraft as it should (recent F/A-18’s additions are unbalanced)

(oh, and don’t forget about the playerbase problem: gaijin didn’t gave them tutorials with good enough informations in them so the playerbase can understand how wrong their playing right now)

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If you think the F-14s are untouchable you’re completely out of touch.

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Which is why it is important to look at average statistics and not a single person.

that’s exactly the opposite in my PoV,…

looking at mediocre stats, from a majority of mediocre players doesn’t show the true potential of an aircraft.

which is going to impact it’s BR placement.

for a Game that wants to be competitive, that’s inane thinking to take the mediocre stats to balance an aircraft (yet, that’s what Gaijin do : Esport and inane thinking about balance).

So it’s a matter of beliefs then?

it’s a matter of not being an amateur and proposing mediocre game

Get off your gitgud high horse. That’s hypocritical.

i’m only point out the fact that an Esport game shouldn’t go for mediocre stats/results in order to balance a game,…

Why is not the reverse true?
Why would a mass-market game, often breaking 200k online by the way, of which 99% are playing random battles, target anything but the mass audience?
I am sure the remaining 1% doesnt pay nearly enough to offset their otherwise unimportance.
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To be honest, an F14 with full Fox 1 loadout plays a lot like F18C Early but with better performance in exchange for radar and RWR. Phoenixes are beyond useless and I’m sure the KDA would go up if players stopped using them.
Just my 2 cents.

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Except for the fact it has a god awful radar in comparison (one of the worst PD radars at the BR compared to the Hornet, which has one of the best radars at the BR) and doesn’t get AIM-7P… and also can’t win dogfights…and it has an awful rwr… but yeah its basically the same…and doesn’t have 9Ls…

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maybe because Editors of various games types (teambased ones) with 10-11M or 4.5M+ players daily on two of their games,… already showed that balance is done from pro players to base players, as they’re having competitive games with a way higher and known Esport scene?

if gaijin really wanted to make WT an Esport scene, as they claimed it to be,… there would be a fairly better balance than just taking the low skilled stats.

the game is either lying on it’s Esport claims, or it’s driven crazy for money (hence why the game is mediocre balance wise,… which also would explains many other problems in the game right now,…)

not even considered in my previous statements,… as i’m not looking for a vulgarly poor game

Couldnt have proven my claims better myself, so I am glad you have agreed on this one.
As a matter of fact, things are being treated as mass-marketed ones - balance by overall servers statistics etc etc.

If it was all about esports, we wouldnt be having this conversation, and yet here we are.

Alot of the issues here are mainly due to compression. The best way to fix this would be a max BR of at least 16.0br with a complete separation of jets that can carry ARH missiles vs those that don’t have with a few exceptions such as the F14s.

In all honesty this has been long overdue as we have many 12.3-13.3br jets that need to be moved up but cannot not due to 13.7-14.3br aircraft.

Tbh this compression problem is starting to affect nearly every critical BR range, like 11.3-14.3br, 8.3-10.3br, 7.0-8.7br, 5.3br-6.3br, and so on.

Decompression is so badly needed for air at this point, like even ground rb got some decompression at top tier.

Is E-Sports played 16v16?