on that i agree - the nerf (while historically reported) is too impacting the AIM-9L
they can notch your missile and fire theres much faster due to it not needing a solid lock so your forced defensive allowing them to move a lot closer and your sparrow is not faster then there aim-120 or R77
you also have to keep nose on and the second you loose lock your done impossible to BVR with basically against someone who has FOX-3 and frontal lobe
the only FOX-3 that this doesnt apply to is the AIM54C/A which where only good when facing people who have bad RWR
You presumed I was the one going head on vs fox 3 and not notching I think it was lol. And this game was 4 months ago… the fox 3 spam and good fox 2 around what it plays has gone to next level making it even worse… shown by yourself today by your way off your old KD pace performance.
Overall stats is basically infamous f4S level so I wouldnt worry too much as even 1.6 kd is probs top 5%. f16 gets bullied, doesnt matter how u play if your team evaporates you are doomed.
That doesn’t really stop them from adding missiles if the jet was able to use them.
It’s why we got CMs and AIM-9Es on the F-5C
that’s another rule of Gaijin that came for that (“if it’s possible on XX exported F-5C, it can be added on US F-5C despite that one never recieved any flare”)
yes, and as told, it was only done for aircrafts that are seen as very weak by results at their BR, but with a flight model that can’t allowed them to go down in BR.
T-2(k) was given AIM-9P, only because it was weak in result (less than 0.5KD) for a 9.7 BR, and can’t go down to 9.3 (which at the time holded the F-86F40 aircraft)
Or for F-16A ADF/MLU/OCU that recieved AIM-120A despite having (at the time) a nearby 1.1 KD in average, they got a double jump in BR.
today:
F-14A : 1.07 KD
F-14B : 0.96 KD
F-14A IRIAF : 1.37 KD
So if any new missile appears on those aircrafts, they will be bumped in at least by 1 BR step:
F-14A 12.7 → 13.0 with AIM-9L
F-14B 13.0 → 13.3 with AIM-9M
F-14A IRIAF (can’t add new missile do it as there was no AIM-9L integrated due to Embargo IRL - so no change)
that’s as simple as that.
So you’ve changed your opinion on F-16A and MiG-29 then?
don’t put words in my mouth,… i just stopped arguing with non-sense,…
you’re hypocritically saying that F-16A Blk 10 is unplayable, yet, you didn’t do anything to prove your way of thinking,… so i won’t pursue hitting a wall of bullshit.
and i never really get involved with the Mig-29 part, as i don’t own any of those in-game.
I provided you with statistics from the site. Look up the screenshots above.
you’re providing stats coming from a based community of 80% players wanting action more than thinking about doing things right.
i proved already that F-16A Blk 10 is viable today, with the current loadout.
at least @tokerstar tried to show the reality, even if he’s making a lot of mistakes within the shared playthrough.
but you’ve done nothing than crying with stats non-representative of the actual potential of the aircraft, and your 3 recent games where you’ve done terribly bad,…
so i’m done talking to you
when did AIM-120A appeared for F-16A ADF/MLU/OCU?
in late august 2025 update!
but somehow, those F-16’s (both Blk10 or Blk15 ADF) are less played since February 2025
we can see here, that many played the F-16A ADF back at the time it got AIM-120A
then, again, players are leaving it
it’s a playerbase problem, not a technological one,… aligned to the factor that some other, newer and unbalanced yet, aircrafts were involved at those BR,… namely:
F/A-18A
F/A-18C early
both taking over the interest of playing F-16’s that are less equipped (less missiles overall) or less capable (AIM-7M F/A-18A vs no Fox-1 F-16A Blk 10)
and most importantly all US aircrafts of EVERY BR over 11.3 are have less and less players to play with.
confirming that it’s a Player Based problem on USA Side.
Showing a migration of those players to other techtrees that are considered more “META”, or following the addition of new aircrafts awaited:
Russian exemple:
French Exemple:
Japan Exemple:
US aircrafts at TopTier aren’t fun, because the Powercreep signature move of the game made them mid, if not bad compared to other nations - so US players are simply quitting the US Techtree.
it’s not a problem of F-16A Blk10 being too bad as itself,…
from the 2 screenshot you showed:
less players playing one aircraft + less kills made by those left playing it
Only shows a change of demographic/skill in who plays the F-16A Blk10
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Oh, you played all these in the last month? no you didn’t
Better than every 12.3 and magnitudes better than every 12.0
and the best radar in the rank… and one of the best RWRs… and some of the best missile load for 12.3…
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you mean the BEST missile load for 12.3 (AIM-7M still better than AIM-7F, even if it’s a slight difference)
There is zero difference between 7F and 7M in game besides the sidelobe changes that gaijin attaches to missile data, but this is a code problem and not actually tied to the missile characteristics. It would be better off tied to the jet itself but gaijin codes funny. Point is, they are the same missile.
gimbal limit is 5° better on the AIM-7M (60°) than AIM-7F(55°) (a slight tiny bit better for HOBS)
EDIT: for Datamine proofs
Ok I see this now, yes this is the only difference in the missiles but it’s extremely minor.
that’s why i talked of “slight” differences,…
yet 2.5° can make a difference in combat, like the “Rollspeed of F-16 vs Mirage 2000” (which should be 1°/s difference)
0/3 is crazy
yeah F-14 is not good atm, none of them are, even the fakour-90 iriaf is only good at 1 very specific thing and its not a “game winning” strategy. F-14A and F-14B are both AWFUL for their battle ratings objectively
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