Ok Move the 2S38 Up and HSTVL Down

Mfw when I shot a 292 in the breach in my Type 90 with the APFSDS and it failed to pen.

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Funnily enough, the 292 is one of the only tanks in the entire game (of like 2) that has no artificial breech weakspot. The mantlet is extremely hard to pen, because it has no gaps like every other MBT in the game (because artificial Gaijin reasons).

Lmao just compare the armor on the 292, to the Type 10 (one of the most expensive and advanced tanks on the planet)

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Can also shoot the sides of the mantlet and it’s still a complete toss-up whether you pen or not.

It can also survive a frontal UFP penetration by a 1200mm penning tandem warhead ATGM. Because… realism.

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TOW-2Bs also can’t penetrate the roof because it has that thick ass plate over most of the turret roof… this is besides the fact the TOW-2B doesn’t fail to penetrate a single tank irl lol (gaijin has the kinetic penetrator at stupid low levels of penetration rn, like 110mm)

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no, it doesnt.
2s38’s mobility even worse than leopard 2a7’s
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where did you get damage of 57mm apfsds from? can you share it with me?

this can be said about EVERY vehicle, because the only goal in this game is to make frags. no, they play differently. the closest analogue of 2s38 is strf 40

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Yeah. Right. Realism…

Also tagged 1 like that in the LOSAT before. Same outcome.

Mobility is still good… it is not slow.

lol… I’m not going to continue with you since its clear you’re not being reasonable

Oh don’t worry the TOW-2B has been made hilariously worthless with Gaijin’s AMAZING and TOTALLY AWESOME ATGM guidance changes.

Look at how realistic this is. I love how realistic War Thunder is. Thanks Gaijin for your realism.

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this isnt a problem with the object, but with the atgm and their settings.

then why does 2s38 swallowing dust even from heavy 2a7? i’m not even talking about Abrams M1, 2a4, pt16.

2A7 is also not slow

My supra is slower than my ferrari, the supra is slow and bad.

Incredible logic.

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Try not to be Russian player blindly defending their op lineup with irrelevant arugements.
Level: Impossible

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Man this game pisses me off sometimes

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Which reminds me, the Russian ATGMs seem to be the only ones in the game that actually fly straight anymore. Funny that.

Meanwhile:

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Don’t mind me derailing the topic with this one, but somehow the autoloader to the Soviet/Russian tanks was actually a buff, now they can eat shells and not being able to hit the ammo, it act like a spall liner.

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what does light tank get in return for armor? correct, speed. but 2s38 is slower than enemy’s mbts)))

russian player? what?) and what are “relevant arguements” then?

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Oh yes it was a massive buff. The 2S38 also got a huge buff, because now there is almost no ammo in the turret. That combined with the insanely tiny unrealistically small breech that is some how smaller than the barrel (magik), it is now almost impossible to kill hull-down 2S38s. Instead what you will damage is their ‘electronics’ which only disables their stabilizer. Which is irrelevant when the vehicle is hulldown pelting you with blinding 57mm spam.

They also removed the back plate behind the fuel tank which could cause spall and make it easier to kill the crew. Instead now the fuel tank just eats spall, because Russian fuel tanks are actually a hyper futuristic new Soviet-only teknologee that Stalin himself recorded upon a piece of toilet paper while having his morning thinking session, and they function like re-usable secondary ERA.

Also to note that Russians apparently fill their tanks with anti-spall oxygen, which is like normal oxygen, but 10x the density of the Earth’s core.

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2s38 gets to be both one of the best spaas at the BR as well as one of the best light tanks that can delete multiple tanks in short succession… it isn’t slow its just slower than MBTs lmao

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