i wont bother with range as maps are made to be small.
speed is aster and buk, even the aster are being nerfed, if they ever get buffed, it will be the best.
buk radar is worst of the ( batterys systems ) spaa that we have. aesa radar on the launcher cannot be used effective as they can be.
yea they do, amount of export t72 and Oplot / t-80 has made them learn actual weak spot,
Speed still matters a lot most missiles in the game are sub mac 2 by 20km and cant hit all that well while the BUK is still at mc 3 and has a lot of energy left to put into turning, The aster 30 on the other hand is only faster than the Buk for like 5km. and all radars are shit at top tier and none of them work like asea radars
No they don’t , I had 3 t series and a bmp stare at me in the bishma while I was disabled. 6 shots. They missed 6 shots while I was still. The bmp was the only smart guy who decided to close in and shoot from the side
the missiles of the buk are good that for sure, its the platform that is suupose to help the full power the missiles.
that why is not as good as the others.
With a 25 meter radius . That’s irrelevant
sure im aware of the Buks weaknesses i mean you can see the thing from orbit but in term of Ammo it def has the best missile at its br at leat for active radar i still think the irst is better for actual planes since you cant multipath it
how does having the “best” missile help you if you see targets too late, cant hide your launchers cause they dont launch vertically and cant hit anything closer than 3 km at all help you? Even if you launch at targets further away the missile can be notched or multipathed (Like the ASTER, but the aster has about same speed/range and you can put its launchers right behind large buildings where they usually are very safe). It is among the worst top tier spaas which is shown in its stats.
Yes it does have a good missile. but the radar doesnt see planes you can see with your bare eye for 5 seconds, it shows ghost targets all over the place and half the time you cant launch because of “obstacle in the way”. You need a lock on the target to launch in the first place. If you cant get that or get it too late the best missile in the world wont help you.
The IRIS-T and the SAMP-T are leagues better than the buk. Thats just a fact.
IRST better yes SAMP-T no not really its pretty easy to evade if your not afk and with a 2m proxy fuse multipathing the missile is braindead easy. The radar is def the buks biggest weakness but keep in mid you can still turn on the radar on your launchers while your radar unit is active to boost detection speeds and tracking by a lot.
Sure you can, but to do that you need to know where the most important target is in the first place. And the absolutely abysmal main radar doesnt exactly help with that, picking up stuff 5 seconds after they were in plan fov. Ive played The IRIS-T, SAMPT and buk now quite a lot and the best one for me is the SAMP-T simply because of its very good radar. You can play in 3rd person most of the time find unexpected spots, if someone is popping up, your radar immediately piicks him up and you can shoot (ofc as long as youre not looking in the completely opposite direction). After that launch its just-go to radar menu, check if hes launched missiles and shoot them all down. thats like a 3 second process. Maybe 5. In those 5 seconds in the BUK you wont even have realized someone was popping up for an attack run. Then your launchers are facing the completely wrong way because your radar picked up a drone 10 km behind the map. Do you know where they are pointing? nope…try to get a softlock on the main target…obstacle in the way, cant launch… then you feed some sp to the enemy cas.
Srsly the BUK is trash except for flat open maps where you can cover most angles over a long distance and it leaves very few angles for enemy planes to get close. And dont even get me started on really close cas or heli rushers. BUK also sucks vs those. so youre even relying to other spaa to help you out with those while IRIS-T and ASTER can hit stuff as close as 1.5 km
And im not imagining stuff, the stats clearly show how bad the BUK is. It has worse stats than the CLAWS which sits 0.3 BR lower
The buk is bad? Personally the only reason irst has a higher kd is simply because of russian cas spam,
At the same time the lack of NATO CAS + you still have the pantsir who dominates with everything close range.
Thx for posting that, im too lazy to copy the numbers into the forum again. Its about time that myth about the “best SPAA with the best missile” has an end, where people that never played it fantasize about how broken the BUK is, when it is clearly not. Its literally pointless if the pantsir is still the better choice in 95% of situations.
With the addition of the free pantsir , those close Heli rushed and jets will never get close to a buk in like ever. With so many russian light tanks capable of killing Heli rushers that’s also adds to it not being a problem
Obviously is better. NATO CAS has no long-range option. They always have to get close.
Lol and they still mald about IRIST not being accurate? Bruh it has like 2x the kd alone…. Of buk.
… In the era of mi28 spam??? Why wouldn’t it. And it still has worse winrate.
Thats kinda true, the pantsir spam helps the buk but still, the BUK TELAR has a K/D of 0.8!!! the IRIS/T has 1.9. Imagine how people would react if those were the stat differences of top tier mbts!
0.8 for the radar vehicle…thats already a net negative unless you somehow magically manage to down a 800 sp plane. after that do you think the launchers without radar will do much better to offset you losing all your awareness options?
I already said it. The amout of russian cas is so bad it inflates the numbers . With the winrate apparently it doesn’t make a difference
Not sure what youre writing after, but Ah64Es/z-10ME have more missiles to deal with sam systems. 16>8. Lmurs are larger and easily for the sam systems to knockout, lesser in number etc.
Winrate is alot of factors tho, sometimes germay pairs up with different nations, so you can automatically use winrate as a factor lol.
