Object 775 9.3 LOSAT 10.3

Everything that isn’t armor.

You state this as if the Object 775’s mobility is poor, why?

I’ve responded to your comments, I’m sorry you feel that my responses aren’t valid.

Armor, size, ammo capacity, gun depression

Yes there are several things which the 775 has over the LOSAT

Still lacks critical features to put it even close to 10.3.

Exactly my point, the LOSAT being placed at 10.3 with its current modeling is a sick joke.

No.
775 has no business going any closer to LOSAT than it already is.

Where did I suggest this?

LOSAT going down should imply 775 going down as well, since they’re fine at being 1 BR apart.

What justifies this 1.0 BR disparity?

Much better mobility, thermals, much better ATGMs.
All things that are critically needed for that type of a vehicle.

I do not find that the 775’s mobility is drastically slower than the LOSAT’s.

This is a negligible benefit and neither vehicle is at a tier where thermals are a rarity.

Better needs to be qualified. They are only better at penetration at long ranges, and can only be fired accurately at extreme long ranges. The 775 has less penetration but can fire while moving, track its missile in close quarters, fire its missile from hull down positions due to its design and ability to depress its gun. Yes the raw penetration is technically worse, but taking in all other considerations both vehicles have similar offensive performance. I would consider the 775’s performance better on the majority of maps in War Thunder as the majority of maps in War Thunder are CQC.

19.7 HP/t vs 29.5 HP/t is highly noticeable.

It’s not, especially considering LOSAT has 2nd gen thermals while 775 is stuck with NVD. This will drastically impact their visibility.

They won’t explode on fences, bushes and crap like that. Also, they are much faster and even at 500m they’ll have better penetration than 120mm DM23.
Meanwhile, Rubin isn’t even a tandem missile, meaning it’ll have a hard time going against ERA and composites.

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You’re talking getting to speed not top speed, but sure by that measure it’s pretty fast. The lack of armor negates that advantage.

Thermals are great on really big wide open maps with lots of tree lines / bushes. How common is that?

Yet one can be aimed within 500 meters and the other is useless until 500+ meters. The speed is irrelevant considering you have to be fully stopped to fire and you have to deal with so much speed that aiming the missile is a chore ignoring not having a stabilizer not having the ability to fire while moving not having the ability to depress your gun.

MBT-70 is working with what?

This seems to be a very heated thread for some reason but I just want to mention that it doesn’t matter lol.
The LOSAT will not perform better at a lower BR, because by its nature it’s awkward to use in WT, its BR is irrelevant.

Acceleration is one of the key aspect of mobility, you won’t drive 3 kilometers in a single go so LOSAT is much more mobile than 775.

Thermals are also great when you get foggy weather.

With that really good mobility you’ll be first to take the spots you want, so firing on the move is pretty irrelevant.

MBT-70 is working with XM578E1.

I think there’s a level of lethality at 10.3 compared to 9.3

Yes.

The 775’s mobility is not bad.

What map has you driving this far?

It would seem the 775’s penetration is suitable for its BR range then.

People use the atgm on the mbt70? I always use the apfsds due to the quicker reload and ability to get snap shots off.

Losat atgm is better than m774 past about 400m and better than m735 past about 250m.

People use the low penning APFSDS round of the MBT-70 which has less pen than the ATGM of both the 775 and MBT-70

Yes the missile gains penetration with distance.

Yes because there is more to a round than just pen. I find the apfsds much more reliable than the atgm for it

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