Because they can’t fit all of 292s in one team - there are so many of them they need to be spread between teams.
Just block mythic, that’s what I did, this person cannot understand simple logic and claims everyone who plays Russia is a “vatnik”.
Range? War thunder? You’re joking, right?
Best I can do is this.
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I like how everyone (especially USA mains) purposely ignore the fact that all Russian vehicles has the worst gun handling in the game, you often caught yourselves unable to lower the gun enough to point at your target on uneven terrain, nobody else has this issue except for USSR vehicles, you know it’s a big issues if you had played the big three. Vehicles like that takes more effort to do well especially staying alive, what are you gonna do if you get your barrel/breech broken and you have a max reverse speed of -4kph? if we all going to play the bias card, USA reverse speed bias, British gun handling bias, Germany nuke round bias, all I see is perception bias lol
There were swarms of LOSAT in the past event, there were swarms of TOG II in the past event, give it a week or two they start disappearing, or the spam dies down. It’s get spammed because it’s new, and people who gotten it either grind themselves to death or spent a lot of money to obtain it, then it takes years to spade the thing that’s one of the reason why people play them alot. Guy who did well in the 292 can do better in the TURMS-T.
Does it mean they are OP?
Because of low experience players bringing the winrates down by spamming premium M1’s without line-ups and without the skills necessary for top-tier.
I repeat: Don’t blame the vehicles for the lack of skill of it’s users, these M1’s are extremely potent vehicles even compared to most of what Germany and USSR gets.
Anyways, we’re going round in circles so I’ll leave it here.
I’m sorry, but I have no idea what you’re saying here.
The T-90A is notoriously awful, I’m not sure if comparing vehicles to it is all that fair.
Because the exact make-up of the composite armor is unknown, therefore the creator has to just make something up.
Meanwhile, the UFP of an M1 is a simple steel plate which has all of it’s properties known, the simulation is valid.
I think its ok, this way I don’t have to deal with 700mm pen with my 11.7 lineup… While Nato 9-11 tanks have weak to no armor anyways and the 700mm pen are wasted.
Thermals stopped existing in game?
That in itself is a problem
Because think about it, 292s are playing 292s. Funnily enough, in a game with 2 teams, one is going to lose
WR on the 292 is now magically going to be much closer to 50%, and therefore clearly not OP
The problem I have with it is the gun. Quite frankly if it can go through a Challenger 2 turret like knife through butter whilst being a whole BR lower, can front kill a Leo 2A4 with its HE, I do wonder what “Balanced gameplay” actually means to Gaijin Devs.
Also note how already some of the CCs are running HE only vids. Spookston, JPs are two that i’ve seen and watched.
And then the dart… ahhh yes the glorious dart
You know it’s a bit insulting to have primary docs on L27A1 saying it can go through 700mm RHA get denied because it magically doesn’t match the formula but when a Russian Dart… that… doesn’t even have a designation… gets involved, it magically gets one of those. At 10.0 no less.
And before anyone screams “muh reload” well get used to it. And if you position right you can get shot after shot after shot into the enemy without ever being pushed on the reload.
Let me give you another example - I was playing FV4005 last night. I got 9 kills in Alaska, in the urban area of all things, and the only reason I died was I pushed harder than I should’ve.
If I can make that thing work with 38 second reloads, then Russian mains can make it work with 10. Every other disadvantage that tank has (reverse gear, or lack of, not as effective armour) is either something another tank in Russia has to deal with or is a problem not specific to the 292.
The whole argument of “the 292 shouldn’t go up in BR” reeks of inability to… you know, think rationally.
Reload? Position better. Kill your enemy with the first shot. (not hard with that round)
Reverse Gear? Something you should be used to. Again, position better.
No Coax? Use the HE and nuke whatever it is you’re trying to kill in one shot. Using the 695mm dart isn’t always the best bet.
No thermals? Learn the likely routes of enemies. Think what you would do if you were an enemy tank. Know the sightlines on each map.
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Yes
I have never said anything to do with skill or win rate
Im comparing the tanks in vacuum and i think out of the top 3 for ground the Abrams is the worst
Not saying its the worst tank
Im aware of the low win rates due to premiums
I see the Abrams as a better challenger 2
90% of my time playing vehicles like the BMP2M and 2S38 involved rushing to a point, capping, getting a few scouts, and then J’ing out to get into a KA-50. It doesn’t reflect that in my kill death ratio though. I’m also someone who will spawn as the last person whilst getting heavily spawn camped to try and get a cheeky kill. It also doesn’t indicate that in my stats. WT doesn’t even have ranked/ELO based match making, yet you want to pretend that not only do individual stats matter, but that you can judge someone purely from lifetime kills and deaths.
For the umpteenth time - WT is not a competitive game, and trying to analyse someone’s stats like it is just demonstrates your intelligence level. It’s bad enough you needed it explained to you, but the fact that you still can’t get it after being told multiple times is just sad to be completely honest.
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Just because it’s not a competitive game doesn’t mean it can’t be played well or poorly.
Stats reflect a player’s skill decently well. It’s no coincidence that the top players in this game all have exceptionally good stats.
I’ll give you an example: Air RB match and two players find themselves in a 1v1:
- One of said players is lvl 100 with a 6-1 K/D and 71% winrate in the plane he’s flying.
- The other is a lvl 23 with a 0.7 K/D and 44% winrate in the plane he’s flying.
Which one are you betting on winning that duel?
That’s why you simply take multiple vehicles’ worth of stats when getting a general of a player’s skill.
The top 10 vehicles on a players card are a good start, those are the ones that player has the most gametime with.
They do.
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I would bet on the level 100 purely because they have much more experience than the level 23. I wouldn’t bother considering their kill death ratios. The only exception would be if the level 23 was a smurf account, which apparently some people do to “reset” their statistics. In a grind-fest game it blows my mind that people are willing to go to those lengths to have “better looking stats”, but then again there are plenty of people like you and Moto on the forum, so I guess it makes sense there are people fragile enough to care that much about their player-card.
In a freemium grind-fest game, I personally spend a huge amount of time basically playing AFK whilst watching TV on my other monitor. Pretending statistics matter in WT like this is CSGO, where people have a separate ranked mode and they play it 100% focused/competitively, is just making a clown of yourself. Even GJN memes about WT being eSports ready, and the only way they can generate views for their “competitions” is by putting camouflages into twitch drops.
Except the BMP/2S38/Ka-50 was three examples alone? There was another general example there which you ignored. There are countless others to go with the point made above, but I’m not about to waste my time explaining them to you. If you haven’t got it by now, you probably won’t ever get it. Don’t worry about it - critical thinking isn’t everyone’s forte.
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Fair enough, but while playing the m1a1 aim, I have noticed darts penetrating my turret armor, and yes this is when I am looking at the enemy so it is angled
that picture is makin my eye twitch and givin me ptsd
also quit leaking classified info on here to win debates lol (in general)
Funny enough, the 292 is capable enough even going in reverse compared to some other T-series, so it’s really not a valid downside to bring up.
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Yeah because it’s prototype of T-80 and that’s the only series where Soviets smartened up and decided that reverse gear is important.
And then… did the opposite again in T-90?
Which is irrelevant since it’s not a T-90.
Altogether the 292 needs to be at 10.7 - Anything lower is unacceptable.