So I wanna know what is everyone standpoint, here is a poll to understand:
how about u open your eyes and play a real tech tree instead of playing the easy as piss nation
Not really how things work though. Overpenetration means more post-pen energy and potential damage.
lol, now they dont like gun also. sigh. such a victim mentality.
Could you provide evidence for that?
You have negative winrates in nearly every Russian vehicle you play, if it is indeed so easy, why are you having such a difficult time with it?
Besides, the German, Russian and American tech trees are the ‘‘Main’’ tech trees of War Thunder and are all equally competitive.
They fixed that a while back, did it become bugged again recently?
They never fixed that
because i touch grass and i actually enjoy life
No true comrade let’s a little thing like reality ruin their delusions of grandeur.
What is your agenda here?
Because like many others on these forums, it seems to be to acquire acknowledgment from others and to boost ego.
Honestly, if you cannot handle the 292 and it is as terrible as you say, i would recommend not playing it.
There are plenty of other vehicles in the game, but beware: the other vehicles in the game have differences from other vehicles, its a quagmire out there and can only imagine it being harder for you.
Some vehicles go faster than others, some have more armour than others etc etc, i mean if the 292 is such a struggle, i couldnt really recommend much else because as i say you may encounter a vehicle that can do something better than you - therefore making it unplayable by such reasoning.
You get people who have good k/d and winrates on certain op vehicles, yet they pretend it is the worst vehicle ever introduced into the game - and say they only have good rates on it because they are skilled, thats the only factor, yet suspiciously majority of other players also have good rates. (seeking acknowledgment)
So tell me what do you want? br decrease? reload decrease? add more armour? better round? thermals? better engine? what do you need to make this utterly useless vehicle able to compete mate?
Do a mock-up of what you want this fantasy vehicle to be and submit it to gaijin.
also: is4 to 6.0 because it is slow, bad turret traverse and long reload. (using the common reasoning in this thread)
This is like asking for proof of gravity. Although you guys are the WT equivalent of flat earthers, denying what is painfully obvious to everyone else, so I guess it makes sense.
Go into the game and test it for yourself, as that’s the only evidence you will accept.
The fact that you’re bringing up win rates just shows you have no idea what you’re talking about. Well done invalidating yourself.
695mm of pen with 10.0s of reload.
3BM42 with 7.1s of reload.
Obviously there’s some tradeoffs in play here which balance things out, so people losing their minds over this is hilarious.
It’s hard to explain this to people that often ignore every single aspect of a tank and just hard focus on pen itself.
No wonder they don’t realize 292 can’t be played after losing two crew members, unlike most of it’s contemporaries.
Most of the malders here are actually pretty bad at the game, regardless if they’re playing “brokenly OP” vehicles or not, which is honestly pretty weird.
That’s like listening to feedback from silvers in CS about gun balancing when they’re unable to use any of those correctly. I’m sure most of those takes are correct, right ?
i have seen your replays mate, you just sit back majority of the time not far from spawn usually and never take risks.
You rarely cap, rarely help others repair etc etc.
Just go in for kills, thats all.
Sure your k/d’s are good but that is just 1 aspect so insulting others seems rather unjustified.
So tell me no risk sweater, what do you suggest? br decrease? reload decrease? add more armour? better round? thermals? better engine? add more crew? what do you need to make this utterly useless vehicle able to compete mate?
Tell us what needs to be done.
They did, at the very least on the Challenger 2’s they did.
Unfortunately it seems it got broken again.
Why not have decent stats and enjoy life at the same time?
I did, I tested DM13 with around 390mm of penetration as well as DM53 with 652mm of penetration against various targets, there’s no real damage difference on targets that both shells penetrate comfortably.
That’s why I am asking for evidence, and since you haven’t provided any, I’ll refer back to the line of: ‘‘That which is claimed without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence’’
I’ll reply to you again once you stop making non-stop strawman arguments.
i ask, what do you think needs to be done? if anything?
maybe a br decrease is needed.
this is the challenger 1
Interesting to note that ChSV said it should be like 9.7-9.3 and 10.0 it’s absolutely useless and basically inferior to KVT PzBtl 123 and so on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGaO_5WvzdQ
By saying this I’m sure you haven’t.
You’re spewing nonsense right now.
I never said 292 is bad or that it cannot compete at it’s BR, I was just saying that moving it up to BRs often suggested here is simply hilarious.
10.7 is good.
deal with it.
Feel free to scroll up and partake in the vote.
Also feel free to acknowledge popular opinion on said vote.
Then deal with it.
I tend not to comment too much on vehicles I don’t play myself, as I’m of the opinion you should own a vehicle and experience it fully before making judgment on it.
All I’ve been saying is that having a long reload rate at top-tier is extremely damaging, but then again, the Object 292 also has some good aspects to it, so I’m not sure nor will I comment on what it’s rightful BR should be.
I do however know that there’s a bug report out on it’s engine being incorrect, and that it should have an additional 150 horsepower.
Except counterstrike is a well balanced competitive game, and WT is a freemium grind-fest game. I doubt you’re looking at replays, so you base your entire opinion on playercard kill death ratios. Incredibly simplistic thought process, even for you Moto.