11.7+
If you add everything at 11.7 together, they are big no#1. Its more than just one MBT. They have their no-fly zone SPAA, Vikhr choppers, the Su-25 folly. Onetap Kornet ATGMs where OP alone kills your tank crew…so they still are on top^^
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mmmm, what? :D
KA-52 was op, when tunguska was top AA. Now, it’s just medicore , you start flying from helo base, and boom VT1 allready shot you down.
SU-25T on 11.7 , is next to a joke , try to fly subsonic Striker in that br and you got same ending as KA-52. Unless F16 or Gripen doesnt take you allready out soon as you spawn.
T90/80BVM gets slapped by A7, and strv’s 8-1
Pantsir Only what is actually top on that br in USSR , and still get’s slapped by Gripen, Mirage and F16 quite easily. (unless they just fly straight after spawning and start whining after that how op that thing is,)
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It’s not Japanese, so it can sit lower. Only 1.0 BR higher than the Type 87 RCV -
- rainbow hands * BALLANCE * rainbow hands *
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Happens everytime when new event vehicle is released
292th is mediocre for 10.0
It doesn’t matter how much penetration, the main thing is damage. and the damage on the thoptier is random.
However 292 has of 10 seconds reload, and Abrams - 5
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Fixed that for you
skill issue
see above
except you can send a rocket there way the second they spawn…
pantsir is hands down the most easy mode spaa in any game
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That’s cute argument. Skill issue… Especially if you do a hell of a lot better on A7 compared to USSR “top” mbt’s, so it’s a skill issue that you get a lot better stats in it, but not in those filthy op machines what you whine so much :D Just like when pointing out something and answering with some meme pic.
Ps. Same applies on pantsir also, you do better on flakrad… :D
I mean, if someone isn’t absolutely clearing BVMs and 90Ms in their 2A7V than that is an absolutely massive skill issue on the 2A7V player’s end.
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clearly if they model the 2a7v cheeks so weak that m829a1/3bm60 can pen it killing gunner and loader +1 :)
or the ufp etc but hey thats fair :)
if you compare stats also compare the amount of matches ;)
but at least im not a ru only player, but someone that hasn’t reached more then TT in 1 tree :D
Pantsir 80 matches
flakrad 453
now guess why
lul
lets apply your logic here
going by your stats
then the F-4S Panthom II has better stats then your mig 29
is it better ? NO
Has it more matches ?
yes
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I got a 60-70% winrate and 2.2 K/D in the 2A7V without actively trying. It’s just so braindead easy to do well in. Only tanks that are even more braindead are the Strv 122s.
I feel like you almost have to actively throw to have a less than 1.2-1.5 K/D in the 2A7V and Strv 122s.
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yes and no
All you need is to have USA in your team and you know already its lost
Thanks to all the clickbait/aims player
Anyway back to topic 10.7 would be more then fair for the 292
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yes, I started on USSR, and Germany. So?
ok, I can quarantee, that I suck more on F4s since it was just for grinding sl and event on air, when lacking soviet air. And even my stats say , that I have better KD on Mig and I suck on flying and even my stats say so.
But still , take a moment, and compare your KD on A5/A6/A7 on your soviet counterparts , and think again.
And usually, if someone has experience and doing good in something what needs skill, dominates on something what is claimed to be broken and completely op. And somehow, everytime I see a player on 122/A5/6/7 they got a hell lot better kd in those , compared on soviet MBT’s on same player.
Only thing what we can nearly agree is Muricasuffers excluding CAS on top tier
And Sweden and Germany dominates top tiers easily.
If that seems like a contradiction to you, you need to improve your reading comprehension.
Seems you’re still not grasping it. If someone spends 100 matchs afk grinding a new plane or modifications, and then they are playing properly for 10 matches where they are the best player in the match, their stat card would indicate they are an awful player whilst in reality they are the best player in the lobby. Moto’s original point was that you should just disregard the opinion of anyone with “bad stat cards” because they have no idea what they are talking about. Do you still agree with him?
First sensible thing you’ve said. There are also lots of bad players who care way too much about their stat card. Quite a few of them on the forum I suspect.
10.0 hasn’t been top tier for a long time.
I swear you guys don’t actually play the same game as the rest of us. Damage isn’t random after penetration. If a round with 410mm pen goes through 400mm armour it will cause way less damage than an 800mm round penetration doing the same.
The 2a7 is a better MBT, but Russia overall has a better top tier lineup. You get better helicopters, spaa, and CAS compared to Germany. Looking at mbts in isolation like that is stupid.
Friendly reminder that comparing player card stats in a vacuum is also incredibly dense.
Just to be clear, in just one paragraph you give an excuse for why your personal stats in one vehicle are bad (you were just grinding, completely valid reason) before you go on to say that you always look at people’s stats in tanks and make a judgement from that? Looking at individual stats is just silly.
Like you’re so close to getting it - but still so far somehow.
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I think I might have told something else in there also. Maybe I’m old, and alzheimer is kicking in , when I cant recall what it was…
Oh yes, that it was.
And there might be a reason , why I compare KD on leo/strv/Soviet users when arguments are.
So if it’s a skill issue, player who uses both should have similiar KD’s on both.
Why does you being a bad air player explain you having worse stats in the mig29 vs the F-4 then? Using your logic, you should have a better KD in the better vehicle 100% of the time, no exceptions, right?
well, actually funny enough, I think I actually have slighly better KD on mig.
I’ve already said that I primarily care about stat cards in the form of checking whether a certain player should be prioritised in Air RB.
If there’s a Spitfire at equal altitude that’s a lvl 23 with a 0.4 K/D ratio and a Yak-3 500 metres lower but lvl 100 with a 4-1 K/D ratio, I’ll go for the Yak-3 first.
Sometimes I’ll also check stat cards when someone makes a particularly ill-informed claim, ‘‘T-72AV TURMS is OP!!!11!!1’’ but then it turns out they’re a German main that hasn’t ever played the T-72AV themselves.
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Sensible.
Also very sensible. A lot of the time I see people making ridiculous claims about things in WT, whether it is a specific vehicle, a specific nation, or a specific vehicle type, and often they’ve never even played it themselves or played against it. I personally don’t think your individual stats need to line up with your opinions either. Moto disregards my opinions on the 2S38 and BMP2M because my stats in them aren’t great - even after I’ve told him I used those vehicles to get into helicopters for the entire Russian helicopter tree grind.
I think we are on the same page about Moto and his elitist stance that you need a high KD to have a valid opinion.
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