Hello guys,
First of all I don’t want any toxic/troll/salt responds to this topic, it is just my general point of view and I would like to discuss your opinion only if it is wirtten in normal non-toxic form.
Isn’t the 9.0 too high for Object 279? I mean, I personally have it and it “suffers” against lots of tanks in 9.7-10.0 area for a few reasons. Yes I know that the Object 279 has really trolly armor, nice gun, decent mobility and that’s about it. I think it shouldn’t face things such as in general 9.7-10.0 br, because how it is supposed to play against enemies with thermals, laser rangefinder, variable apfsds rounds, quicker reload when you are the size of a house, you have just basic rangefinder, only rounds you have are APCBC and HE ? I don’t see problem until 9.7 where it starts to be ridicilous. I had a few games where I managed to get nukes against 10.0 enemies, but I really had to try my best not to screw up anything because everyone can pen you in that BR area, but it isn’t guaranteed you can do anything with your APCBC round. Even in a full downtiers I had games where I’ve got instantly destroyed because I was playing like a potato and a player that put at least some efford and time into this game knows how to put down this tank. Whenever I see a complaint on how is this tank such an “OP” vehicle, the only tanks that they play are premiums without a proper line-up. I know that this tank is good, but not OP as some people might say it is and if you didn’t buyed-out your way into 9.0 br, you know how to fight most of the things you face.
7.3-10.0 is too compressed to change its BR. We desperately need decompression around there.
It shouldn’t be facing 7.7/8.0 tanks, but it also shouldn’t be facing 10.0 tanks.
I mean yeah that is my point. I strongly believe that fighting this “moster” in a 8.0 tank isn’t the best experience to get because I assume that the best rounds you have are “more advanced” heat or some weaker apds. Overall I think that this area is such a mess right now and isn’t even fun for anyone besides if you know all the time what exactly you need to do.
9.0 is just trash for it. Why can’t they lock it to a fixed BR? 8.7 only. Or 8.3 to max 9.0. Idk. It just sucks at full uptiers now.
I know. The most liked premiums such as turms, 2s38, wolfpack, leo l44, t-80ud, ztz96a are all 10.0 (besides the leo l44), so you are most likely to get a full uptier against these types of tanks that have decent afpsdf that can pen you anywhere they look (not looking at volumetric rn), have 2nd gen thermals and laser rf, that can eliminate you in a millisecond.
which penetrates by all apfsds on it’s and lower br.
long reload with volumetric shells which don’t even fuze on bad armored vehicles. and this is nice gun?!
Yeah I know volumetric is a thing to discuss on another topic but besides that you oneshot everything you look at (if you know where to aim at) and on the light armored vehicles you can use HE or your 14.5mm coax. So yeah I stick to my statement here that it has a nice gun.
Should be 8.7 but people were nagging a lot.
The 130mm really gets caught a lot in volumetric, especially at full uptiers with spaced armor, trolly angles and ammo wet storage etc.
Exactly. And when I looked at the profiles of people that were yapping about it beeing OP were players that just bought a premium around that BR, didn’t have a proper line-up and didn’t know how to play against it.
Yes it does. But if you know where to aim at and not just shoot at the center of a tank without making 0 efford on where to aim it can work. As I said I managed to get a couple of nukes in a full uptier but I really had to try-hard.
It shouldn’t face anything below 9.0 and it shouldn’t really face anything above 9.7, it’s mostly a compression issue.
Your profile shows exactly why it is at 9.3 currently lol.
It was ridiculous at 8.7. Either this is your alt or you haven’t even played at 8.7 yourself lol.
I can front-pen an Object 279 with my M48’s HEATFS round and frag at least its driver.
279 was not OP at 8.7.
I mean, it isn’t 9.3, but nice try to make your toxic response. I know I bought premium from every nation to grind out everything, but atleast I know what am I saying before trying to make fun of other people ;)
As you can read, you can see multiple people saying it wan’t “OP” at 8.7. Either you are so jealous that you don’t have it so you need to ruin experience for others, or you are just another troll. Bye.
I assumed it was 9.3, actually better that I was wrong because 9.0 is the perfect BR for it.
Hmmm 2 people that have a 3-4 K/D in their “overtiered” vehicle compared to their overall ~1.0-1.5 K/D want said “overtiered” tank to be moved to a lower BR. Totally no secondary interests going on.
Let’s be honest, you just want your easymode tank back at a BR where you don’t have to think while playing it.
Could you stop being so salty? Like wth? We are discussing reasons, pros and cons of why it should be where it is or done atleast something to it. Nobody is trying to make “easymode” mate. If you really think that playing with just APCBC against thermals, apfsds and laser rangefinder, then you are literally trolling. Please like try to be atleast nice when everyone else in this topic has been since you showed up. Nobody is trying to move it lower, nobody is trying to move it higher. We are talking about br compression and not trying to make it as you said “easymode tank to the br where I don’t need to think while playing”. As I saw your response making fun of my profile and you saying that it sits 9.3, you clearly don’t even know the br it sits at. So why do you have to leave toxic like responses when you don’t know the basics of this topic? Think about yourself.
Gaijin balances according to statistics, it’s that simple. If people are still running a 3-4 K/D on it it’s lucky that it’s still only be 9.0 to begin with. Sorry if that is painful to hear.
Yeah I don’t remember every BR of every vehicle. Seeing as I’m more experienced than you (both in battles played and in trees grinded, I also have to remember a lot more vehicle characteristics and BRs.
You guys were. Until it was mentioned by some that it should be 8.7, which would actually worsen decompression.
Like I said before, ideally it wouldn’t face anything below 9.0 (maybe 8.7 at the lowest) and face nothing above 9.3 (9.7 at the highest).
EDIT: also I’m not making fun of your stats. Having an overall average K/D of 1.5 is pretty good.
I understand that and agree to that. But with just using a small portion of logic, tank with just APCBC and literally nothing else against tanks that are suited to play in top tier, it isn’t the best decision. If it is necessary then nerf something on it like they nerfed the round, but don’t move it up to crazy BR where it isn’t almost capable of doing anything. I honestly don’t think it should be nerfed. It’s stats (according to me since I play this tank alot) comes from people’s lack of knowledge on how to play against it because you don’t see this tank too often.
I don’t blame you for not knowing it’s br and according to played battles you are more experienced than me, there’s nothing wrong with that. I’m talking about you just instanly making fun of people and talking about something when you are not sure of the basics. That was my point.
It was just somebody’s opinion. We are people and our opinions are sometimes different. But we are trying to find atlest some way to make it even on both sides. I know putting it down to 8.7 won’t change anything. It will just move this problem from 10.0 to 9.0. But we can’t do anything without atleast trying to find some way.
The big issue I encounter with the Object 279 is that it’s very vulnerable to APFSDS. It can sometimes resist HEAT-FS, but APFSDS will always penetrate its upper frontal… round thing. And from there it usually gets one shot either due to large ammo racks (even when you try to partially empty them) or cramped crew. It seems like it needs to be treated as a glass cannon. It obviously doesn’t have armor as thin as light tanks, but it still seems if you take shots you will likely die, so you can’t risk it.
Yeah maybe I got trigger happy a bit quick. I just get triggered by people who make BR suggestions that clearly have secondary interests (like moving the 279 to 8.7, while it was moved up from there for a reason).
However you weren’t the one to initially make that suggestion, so maybe I targeted you more than I should have.
Here is to hope that we won’t have to wait too long for that promised BR decompression for high tier ground.