Nuclear Thunder!

Greatly reduces the effective range of the Patriot/S-300 site near the destroyed AN/TPS-50 or NEBO site.

Check out these maps to help you locate the sites: Nuclear Thunder! - #5911 by SilentTracker

Ah, didn’t know that was a thing, thanks

That part I expected, but I mean like the missile themselves. The only counter today has been actually putting them into the ground as altitude masking doesn’t work at all.

Thats neat, thanks! Do you know the multipliers or anything for it?

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yes, they are not radar missiles, that is the only way to defeat them.

Well flying through an entire forest should destroy them as it was yesterday xD

yeah, the buff should be halved imo, i like that harsh sams promotes skilled gameplay for pve, but its a little too tight.

No idea lol.

Though apparently taking out the north or south radar location SHOULD give the big nuke bombers enough space to make it to their main Airfield without being shot down by the super long-range SAM sites.

Also, check out these maps to help you locate the sites ahead of time: Nuclear Thunder! - #5911 by SilentTracker

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Saw them, saved them already! Much obliged!

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Honestly, I would say that it doesn’t even allow skilled gameplay for PvE. The only way I’m able to get the AAA now is by double launching ARMs at them. At least before the buff, I could altitude mask and defeat the proxy fuse that way. Today, I’m just getting sniped through jungles by the Osa (haven’t played Russia today yet so idk of the FlakRad is just as bad)

I was not having issues before the buff, the spaa were really easy to get around if you know what you’re doing.
i believe they just removed the prox fuze from the osa
and yeah the rolands were just as bad

tank main tourist discovers SACLOS missile

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Did you buff the spaa today?! I am dying to i so much more

Thanks man I’ll have to give it a watch

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Saclos only tracks with radar not guide the munition so there is only a track warning or ping warning

Osas engage you from about 2-3km further out.

There are some differences between the US and RU SAMs in-game, which is interesting when doing SEAD, since the way you do your SEAD work changes a bit depending on which nation you play.

Please note, that I was playing without a lineup.

Great event but the game is rigged favourably for russia in the following ways:
Terrain
it is a lot easier to hide from AA as a MiG than as an F4E, because on the american side there is more hilly terrain where the height difference is bigger, **I’ve seen tons of MiGs get past with zero resistance from AA.

BUK M3 The BUK M3 shoots you down whenever the OSA AKMs don’t do the trick, I haven’t seen any american counterparts to this, (The S300 and Patriot are on the same level, but not with the BUK), Either add the NASAMS, IRIS-T or CLAWS, the BUK, like usual, also likes to track through the ground.
(I have almost never seen any F4E get past the BUK or OSAs, only once)

OSA AKM
I’ve noticed that they track through trees very frequently, this issue doesn’t appear with their ‘American’ counterparts, The Flakpz. 1, for whatever reason.

Radar
The Radars on the F4E sucks very badly compared to the MiG, I couldn’t lock an Su24M 600m up showing it’s large profile, while it AND the MiG23MLD did the same thing while I was at lower altitudes, this happened MULTIPLE TIMES. The F4J would fit much better. In general these planes are NOT made for this event.

Lack of US AAs
It feels like there are less AAs on the US/NATO side of things, stuff like the ADATS (A much better counterpart to the OSA AKM) would fit much better.

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I reliably get 1 SAM per ARM launch vs most SAM targets, there are some exceptions, but the buff to the SAM’s hasn’t made them any better at taking out the ARM’s. Its just a knowledge gap on your part (no offense), and you can improve in SEAD with practice. (I used to think the same thing as you)

Aside from the range difference between the roland and OSA they overall feel as “powerful”, i see them equally annoying, but probably the biggest difference is in between the buk and the haw, the former is far more dangerous.

Thinking about it, whats up with the flying tub option for the teams?
US got the A-10A Early which is a 10.3 meanwhile USSR got the Su-25T at 11.3
Wouldn’t it make more sense to have similiar BR’d vics or are these two somehow equal in this mode?

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