against SARH missiles probably,but it’s the best against 9Ls
This is what I do with my Mig-23 and F4E vs the SAMs.
SU-24 I try to do the same but I don’t have enough energy to pull it off (I think that’s why it fails?)
Su24 with full nuke loadout, R-60M, 2 droptanks, max fuel is going 1360kmh on the deck. How fast is the Phantom? MAW is usually keeping all IR threats away (you cant be surprised either). Radar missiles are no issue, since preset US jets can’t get a lock low alt.
You just need to avoid guns, which isn’t hard. Also, if you want to headshot the central forward airfield, you need alot fuel for the long way around the flanks into the back of enemy frontline. Su24 with droptanks does the job. F-4E nuker won’t do it, except you switch off AB.
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With the Su-24, I like to play it like a high-altitude bomber; it suits its look better. I climb to 14,000 or 15,000 altitude, drop the nuke, and come back down while enjoying my coffee.
i think the US side should get the F-4J with 7E-2’s as a preset plane
also maybe the f-111 as 30kt nuke carrier
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f-4J as CAP plane, F-111F as multirole
They’re balanced
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Su-24 is too fat to do that successfully, usually I just come in low and fast, do a shallow climb towards the target and break 90° and dive back to the deck after bomb release. Usually have to accelerate back to speed afterward but haven’t gotten nuked by SAMs yet (knock on wood) with this method
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Those are both better than what Russia gets, but I would support an F-111F coming in with only 2 9Ls.
yes exactly
f-4j without any bombs only as a fighter interceptor
f-111 as a dedicated interdictor/nuke carrier
Are AIM-9Ls good?
It’s significant easier in a phantom than an Su-24.
You aren’t wrong about the fuel consumption however.
Are Fox-2s on Russian jets better than American ones?
It’s so hard to get a lock on F-4E
I’d argue that the A6 is the worst “free” jet in the mode, while F-4/MIG-23MLD/SU-24M are the strongest with the rest having their uses, but the problem is that as the frontline airfields get nuked, the match inevitably devolves into F-4 vs the world as the map is big and subsonic aircraft take forever to get near the frontline.
If not the F-111, I would much rather have a free F105 given it’s iconic status in SEAD wild weasel missions, and the fact it was designed as a fast, low level tactical nuclear bomber in the first place, this gamemode is like it’s entire reason for existing in the first place…
Why is the harrier in ban list, is it good?
It has Aim-120 ARH missiles which don’t fit the event, and it wouldn’t be balanced.
Could they not ban the missile type? Like they gave the F-4E 9Ls which it doesn’t get
they are not,cope harder
High Speed alone is already enough to dodge guns. It rarely happens US preset will get on your six within gun range. Also keep in mind that you can still drop the nuke to ruin the day of any tail chaser.
Vice versa Phantoms can be easily intercepted with R-24R from Mig-23. Radar is good enough to use them low alt. Pitch down nose a bit to trigger MSI mode and ground clutter goes away, lock’n’shot. Even if they manage to pull something off to break the lock, R24R has IOG. Russians just on a different tech level than US in this event. Su-24 don’t have to fear radar missiles (cause of F-4E) and MAW makes sure you’re almost immune to Aim-9L.
Thats why Su-24 is superior as nuke carrier. There is almost no way to intercept them, when they’re low and max speed.
There’s a reason why the F-111F is 11.7, while the Su-24 is overtired at 11.3.
If Russia should be nerfed in any way, swap the MLD for a normal ML.
Just saw a new level of pettiness where someone dropped the big nuke on an airfield 🤣 “we ain’t done till I say we’re done”