Nuclear Thunder!

[Ayrek2023]

Any plans to nerf AI accuracy or ground lock?

[SirinKaslana]

@Coldisthevoid

9l is a great missile

Only against braindead enemies. I don’t die to the 9L, only to Aim-7Fs and R-24Rs. But R-60s and 9Ls? I can count on my hand the amount of times I die to that in a session. Avoiding the guns is easy too.

[Mitchverr]

I asked over in the rumour thread but thought why not here too… as the event planes are rank VI, does that not mean they wont get air spawns in Air RB? AFAIK other bombers also follow the airfield only rule for spawning in if they are rank VI afaik.

[SilentTracker]

@SOLO_WING

So i do my Tu95 task easily, and B52 is impossible.

Queue for the lower bracket. Don’t put any planes in your lineup above 11.3 or 11.7 The other option is to queue in with 0 planes and just use the built in planes. The wait time for US is almost instant if you do that.

[iMatty01]

aaaaand now the Buks can shoot at you with their radars off under the mountains,great

Fix your game,Gaijin

[pooqich]

@SirinKaslana

Only against braindead enemies

exactly, they are great at blowing up idiots
great for ganking unsuspecting enemies since the range is quite generous

[冰_鲜_柠_檬_水]

nerf spaa

[iMatty01]

Fix
your
game
Gaijin

Buks are now invisible to RWR, they can shoot even if you’re under their radars and guide too much, Osas are still broken and the US team in the lower bracket is always getting stomped. Remove the Su-24M or give us the F-111F

[NoRespawnsNeeded-psn]

You don’t need to be a strategist who played this game mode, but you need to play a strategy

[BeautifulTai_wan]

@Stephensan

It is simple why this is the case, only a single mach 1 capable nuclear dropping plane, which is the f4e, while russia gets 2, with both of them being very good machines in their own right.

if they added other machines that could drop nuclear bombs that wasn’t a complete disadvantage to try to do, it would be better than the USA going for plane kills and be actually trying to destroy objectives…

Yes, they should add a version of the F-111 with a nuclear payload for the USA to be the counterpart to Su-24. Trade acceleration (TF30 moment) for top speed with the USA.

[_WarDiddy]

Idk what im doing wrong. Enemy AA is locking me through mountains, i cant dodge, i cant notch, i cant flare/chaff, i cant do anything really, every single time im about to bomb a base AA pulls something so crazy i cant even describe it. One time, i was going around them completely, by the ocean, i never had any radar ping, any lock warning, any launch warning, an AA missile just came out of nowhere and shot me down. Like what am i supposed to do. Every single time i spawn a nuke its the same garbage over and over.

[iMatty01]

Imagine being Gaijin and being forced to gimp RU side by nerfing the absolute damn out of the US side. Marvelous

[RunaDacino]

@BeautifulTai_wan

Yes, they should add a version of the F-111 with a nuclear payload for the USA to be the counterpart to Su-24. Trade acceleration (TF30 moment) for top speed with the USA.

I personally find the F4E a far better 30KT nuke carrier than the Su-24.

I’ve never got shot down by SAMs doing a CCRP bomb-toss F4E (5KT, 30 KT).

I’ve never got shot down by SAMs doing a CCRP bomb-toss with the MIG-23 (5KT).

Su-24 though? Can only do it if I know the SAMS were killed or distracted otherwise I have a frustratingly high chance at failing to dodge all the missiles that decided I must now die.

[iMatty01]

bs, the Su-24 is untouchable by enemy jets thanks to its MAWS and can reliably reach and destroy any airfield

[benja86]

Did you play today? Get shot down nomather by the OSA. Russia ofc gets the AA that never misses while the US AA don’t do shit at all.

[RunaDacino]

1. Fly off to the side to dodge enemy jets
2. Line up with the green line
3. Watch map
4. Pull-up when in same gridsquare in a parabolic arc-ish.
5. Immediately after dropping the bomb turn 90 degrees and start doing loops then go home

Perfectly doable with Mig-23 and F4E.

Su-24 gets missiled.

[BeautifulTai_wan]

I had the bad luck of getting my F-4E locked (if you spawn on a base that gets destroyed and J out before the base is destroyed, you cannot use that aircraft in the rest of the mission) and was forced to use the A-7 for the nuclear payload, it was horrible.

I’d 10000% rather have the F-111F or even F-111A over the A-7. If you don’t have a supersonic fighter or ARMs you really can’t even engage the SAM systems. A-7 is not viable for this job.

As for dealing with SAMS, my issue has mostly been US players seeing the “Su-24” marker and frothing at the mouth trying to shoot me down, or getting trolled by the 40m trees having awful hitboxes.

[iMatty01]

in a match rn, a Su-24 just nuked an airport while being undisturbed

Try again

[RunaDacino]

@BeautifulTai_wan

I had the bad luck of getting my F-4E locked (if you spawn on a base that gets destroyed and J out before the base is destroyed, you cannot use that aircraft in the rest of the mission) and was forced to use the A-7 for the nuclear payload, it was horrible.

This is valid. I havent even touched the A7s beyond checking them out for a single spawn.

Giving a back-up if the thing gets locked is fair but I stand by the notion that the F4E is more capable than the SU-24 for doing the “I’ll dodge the sams that want me dead” dance after a bomb toss.

[Ion_492]

F4E with nuke > Su-24 with nuke. The only advantage the Su has is MAWS, which isn’t 100% reliable for some reason.