Imo, keep the map size and layered SAM systems - but cut the team size in half along with the amount of frontline objectives
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First evidence ever of a Gajin employee playing Warthunder.
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Hooooooly nuclear option, personally I don’t think we should eat into NO’s niche as that’s the thing they created for themselves and we should opt to have a more Operation Sindoor type escalation where all assets are already available at the start of the match and can be spawned without any sp cost.
I love nuclear option but at the end of the day its an arcade flight sim with fictional equipment and limited content due to the small dev team so id welcome WT being an alternative to that style of gameplay for a more simcade experience with real life equipment and larger scale
To me if WT does go that route it does not invalidate nuclear option it just provides another option depending on what kind of game im feeling like at the time
With that said the idea of limiting player aircraft to the different escalation levels only works if gaijin gives full free lineups like they did in the april test and not only that they need to make it possible to build loadouts while inside a match neither of which i expect them to do
I also don’t think Nuclear Option’s gameplay loop will fit well in war thunder as well, as missile evasion is generally harder in wt than in no
But not everyone on the “blue” side can use AARGM-ER, why is it that when it’s time to increase the effectiveness of "blue’ side, it’s only regarding the American’s and their export aircraft when there are many other tech trees on that side as well? Can you share more info for other planes and not just the US?
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All this gamemode has provided for me is just way more evidence that the UK tree has far to few FnF munitions that can be used at range.
For full clarity I don’t really use the F/A 18’s ( there American and I want to use UK Jets in the UK tree )
Most of our ordinance is Lazer guided or GNSS that still requires you to be rather close to do anything.
We have 8 SPICE which are IR glide bombs trying to hit targets and dodging load of SAM and other players spamming a load of ARH’s
Brimstones are just pointless slower Hellfires that you need to be way to close to even get hits on things with.
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Earth is flat confirmed here first on War Thunder
I dropped half a Strike Eagle payload of them on one, 0 damage. Wild it takes that much then just to get a hit xD
What cracks me up is they give NATO the AGM-88C from 1993 whereas Russia gets the KH-31PD from 2012… like brother, why is Russia getting such modern equipment? I’m laughing at the fact Gaijin “suddenly realized” from the backlash of how poor the HARM performs in comparison that they are now adding the AGM-88E (which entered LRIP in 2012).
I have a strong suspicion either the AGM-88C FM is bugged or Gaijin didn’t model the dual thrust engine it gets IRL. Did the missile comparison at 50km engagement distance (starting speed was 350m/s, so just over Mach 1, at 5km of altitude). The KH-31PD hits 1100m/s at 8.6 seconds and maintains it throughout the entire flight till impact (apex altitude reached is 13,300 meters at 29,500 meters distance. Makes sense as it’s a RAMJET propulsion after the rocket boost start) whereas the AGM-88C maxes out at 893 m/s at 13.32 seconds (which it has only climbed to 6100 meters at a distance of 9700 meters) and in which, starts dropping speed to 464m/s at apex (apex altitude reached is 10,900 meters at 29,500 meters distance) and 313 m/s at impact (a whole whopping 108 seconds later).
Also, for a fun fact, the KH-31PD can literally hit targets 150km out if you’re flying Mach 1 at 1km of altitude. “balanced”
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Lock range is farther though so maybe it will actually fire rather than doing nothing. Then again, the Pantsir are intercepting BLUEFOR Ai missiles so who knows tbh.
Good find ive always known to not trust the statcards but seeing the AGM-88C say 150km i just assumed the effective range would be more like 120km But nah its not even half…
Probably is grounds for a bug report since the IRL one is stated to have a max of roughly 150km too but in game it gets nowhere close to that
Yeah, it’s literally impossible for it to get there as the battery runs out. Idk what’s more annoying, AGM-88Cs doing death loops for no reason or the fact I’m max crew skill and watch jets phase into existence 3 km out when the fire a missile even though I’m staring RIGHT AT THEM. Literally was looking at my 4 o’clock b/c I got a radar pings from a J10. I see nothing. Suddenly, his dot phases into existence when he fires 4 km out.
Your argument style is really disingenuous, as we all know this isn’t how gaijin balances the game.
Helicopters didn’t get MITL, DM53 didn’t get anti-ERA tip and tanks are stuck with ammo they never even used etc…
“Adding LOAL would add it to every other weapon wich uses it” just isn’t how any of this works.
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I mean you are comparing a missle with the form factor of a aim7 to litterally satan, with big ass boosters and ramjet engines.
What you have done is analogue to someone comparing a r-77 flight performance to a METEOR AAM.
IDK if agm88c is bugged or not, but comparing it to a kh31pd it’s completely useless, after such comparison i would doubt anything you say tbf.
The helicopters will get MITL the next update tho, it was just an emergency, drlay not a definitive decision to not add MIRL to helis.
DM53 does not use the discarding tip of the m829a3 but some fantomatic very pointy tip to not set off ERA. They are not the same.
What tank has ammo they never use? The 8.0-9.3 bracket has 1960s-1970s tanks using 1980s ammo because gaijin is foxated with giving apfsds to everyone.
All top-tier tanks have their right ammo, DM53 should be changed to DM63 at top tier germany, but in the game, it would have the same exact performance.
Can you help me with an example?
Okay, how about L27A1, which does have a discarding tip?
Challenger 2s which up until very recently had L23A1 they never used.
Challenger 1s which use an L23 shell that literally does not exist
Chieftain 10 and 900 which use an L23 shell that literally does not exist
M1A2s (inc. SEPs) which up until very recently had to use base M829
Challenger 3TD which uses DM53 despite completing trials with DM63 and the 3 being due for service entry with 73
T-84s which use BTA4 on the basis of sheer compatibility (with the gun, not the autoloader) and have never used it
Leopard 2A7V which have not fielded DM53 as it has been out of German service for a loooong time (should be DM53A1 or DM63)
Would you like me to continue or would you like to retract your point?
You’re so close to understanding my point while being so far from it… instead of giving NATO modern anti-radiation missiles like they did for Russia, they gave us tech from the 70s/80s. So it’s literally impossible to match the ability of what China/Russia gets and they are able to strike the SPAA from their rear airport with no threat while AGM-88A/Cs are missing from 5 km.
It is quite funny we have ALARM/HARM (early-mid 90s) vs kh31pd (literally 2012)
AARGM was apparently too difficult…