Hasn’t stopped Gaijin from allowing GBU-53 on older F-15C, F-16C, and F-15E, or JAGMs in some other nations AH-64E; They’ve kinda opened the Pandora’s box of “NATO compatibility”, so I wouldn’t be surprise if the EF and PoBIT also gets them.
Considering the AA are guiding purely on SACLOS it probably wouldn’t be too good.
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Unfortunately that is not entirely correct.
You say 30km for TD, but for instance aagm-er does have GNSS as well, therefore it does not have such limitation.
Needless to say 29TD has effective range far far less than 30km. I doubt it can fly that far at all, really. Thus, whether point lock range is 30km or 300, it does not make a difference whatsoever.
So I ask again, what is the actual difference between that and LOAL. The missile travels close enough for seeker to work, then locks whatever it sees. This is how FnF works as of right now, regardless of your opinion on the matter.
Edit: even if we take ships into account. Ok, it flies close enough (20ish km) to lock the ship - then homes onto the ship in track lock. So what? Still LOAL by definition.
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Why would the range be relevant, i struggle to imagine why it even matter, we are talking about the seeker modus operandi lmao.
I am not the one balancing the game, but there is a difference in LOAL and locking ground constrat to then switch to a tracking mode once in range.
First you need LOS wich is huge, second the seeker does not look around , so to switch between a point lock and a tracking lock the target must stay in the seeker view, this means that you need to spot the target before actually firing if you want even a chance to git something.
Gps or inertial LOAL would mean spamming missle behind hills, and salvo firing in the hopes of the seeker finding something.
Much much harder to balance, but even at doing this a IR seeker would still be better.
So the IR seekers ars better 99% of the times, even with LOAL, but since they can work without LOAL gaijin chosen to give players IR seekers and leave mmwr guidance for the future.
The aargm-er if impmenented can have mmwr, but won’t have gps assisted LOAL functionalities, just like kh38mt or aasm bombs lack this same functionalities.
It would probably be PRH+MMWR, the only reason gaijin won’t implement mmwr is becouse by giving it to aargm-er you guys would start crying for other mmwr weapons, wich woukd be useless without LOAL.
To be fair, if the seeker did look around, it’s total FOV would be about the size of a GRB map, which would cause far more trouble than the current implementation.
As of LOS, is there an inherent problem in taking let’s say hellfire’s current logic (can be fired over hills at a marked location without LOS, then guided via seeker) and swapping the seeker from laser to TV/mmw/whatever?
Yes, there is a problem, a balance one. First, you need to accept that LOAL would not be introduced only for mmwr, so be ready to MITL+LOAL+ IIR LMUR,SPIKE and etc etc
Like i sad, MITL+IR+LOAL. Will be superior to mmwr + LOAL + INS.
The US and UK adding a laser seeker to the JAGM and brinstone, the US adopting SPIKE NLOS, and most other nations not even considering mmwr should tell you enough on the limits of such systems.
So you will have all nations thay can just spawn a heli and just spam missle without even taking off from the helipad.
Then, the guys will cry. The LMUR is too OP once again.
The problem is not the implmentation. That would be easy and already done for ASW and GPS guided weapons. litterally, no new code line is needed for LOAL and MMWR.
The problem is the absolute shitstorm that will unfold on GRB if LOAL is added.
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If that was true, we would get heli MITL alongside fixed wing MITL. We, however, did not, because gaijin said “no, not for you”.
And the shitshtorm I’m GRB would absolutely start in case the seeker did look around and you could fire missiles “somewhere over there” and they would find targets themselves.
But with how it currently works? What if the seeker only looked in a pretty small area? Like, in the area where radar emission has been recently spotted? You see where I am going with this?
Still the seeker would have too short range to be fired alone, so it would still need LOAL to be effective.
Your choices are simple
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hellfire L with 2-3 km range
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LOAL added for any weapon that support it and top tier GRB will basically became a reenactment of the 12 day war between israel and iran.
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Gaijin has proven to be selective. There is no factual reason to believe absolutely every weapon having mmw will get it at once (see mitl example).
Give it to a select few. Like aargm-er. Initial home on emission - terminal home on MMW in a small area where emission was last seen. Worst case scenario - 30kg HE explosion few meters over some random t90. Win-win.
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Outstanding 🫡 News!!!
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The Rocks missile (https://www.rafael.co.il/system/rocks/) would also be a good option for the Blue side Community Bug Reporting System
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My point is exactly that, that the agm88g is one of the few thay can recive it becouse it doesn’t need LOAL.
It won’t be getting it anyway becouse people will cry for the other mmwr seekers immediately
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Could we have some of the SHORAD (frontline spaa, eg. ito) replaced with proper medium range air defense systems (Buk-M1)?
Yeah, i think a mixed approach would be the best, 3 frontline buk, 3-4 s300 on the baackline.
Same for NATO with 3 sampt (3×2 radar and 3x4 launchers) and 3-4 patriots.
So the most oppressive ones are the easier to reach and the Longer eanged SAMs like s300 and patriot have less coverage on low flyer and can focus on higher alt targets.
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Buk-M9000 with missile destroying anything in 0.5km radius just by flying by.
“Passed to developers”
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i don’t understand ?
I will keep my opinion until all of this is delivered, for now this Nuclera mode is absolute 0 out of 10.
warthunder has actual problems THATS WHY IM COMPLANING
chinese name too, youre the reason air sim didnt get maneuver kills
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devs, i have one last idea that you should probably do.
remember Grom1? you should probably re add it to the game.
but what about the nato side? maybe jdam-lr or you can come or JASSM, tho you could really add the grom back.
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