Nuclear Escalation - Development update from BVV_d

Please give some attention to naval forces as it has the most bland modes

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Slightly of topic about Litening pod, still semi relevant to Nuclear escalation due to the SEAD aspect

At least the optical and GPS targeting/tracking should in theory be able to reach MUCH further IRL, the laser designator however is a different question as that is very likely limited to a max 30km.

This is from the Litening pod:

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( Screenshot from the video on this page: https://www.rafael.co.il/blog/ensure-your-airborne-superiority-with-litening/ at about 38 seconds in )

I’m assuming the P 21.6 NM (decreases to 21.0 NM as the images is shown over time) to the bottom right is the “point” distance in Nautical miles which would roughly be 40km and at that distance it shows gps coordinates as well. You wouldn’t be able to laser guide at that distance but GPS munitions should still be able to be targeted at that distance.

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This just reminded me, but seeing as Turm III now has 3-plane stabilization, any chance we can get that on TGP’s? I could be misremembering, and i cant open WT atm, but pretty sure none of the TGP’s are roll stabilized in-game, would be nice to have.

Would there ever be an Arcade version? and failing that i think additional BR’s away from the fox 3 gameplay would be better.

No idea, i’m not a developer and i don’t have contact with them, Game Masters have no insight into development.

Personally i think it’s a good idea and i encourage you to make a suggestion for it :)

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I like this idea, while the mode at top tier sounds cool, it is a mess.

60’s or 70’s is the perfect timeframe in my opinion for this mode, you get iconic jets and weapon systems, but at the same time it’s not an ARH spam fiesta.

We have Weapons in the game with 3x that range yes they do

I love the concept of the nuclear escalation and think this is definitely worth the trial and error of making the necessary balance tweaks.

Faction balance aside (which it does appear you & team have identified the issues) I think my only real issue with the mode is the economy. For this to be a suitable alternative to the RB game modes, there needs to be a rather massive boost to RP and SL gains for actions.

Otherwise, Love the game mode and excited to see where it goes

Really looking foward to both of this.

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This is great news, massive thanks for putting so much effort into this mode! I am definitely excited to see the 1960s version, as the 1950s-60s period is definitely my favourite to play in air RB right now. I agree that the asymmetry adds a cool aspect, and encourages players to play different nations more :D


Operation praying mantis with the A6E and EA6B would be the map of the century.



Are there any reports on why CCRP has been disabled on the nuclear carriers in the mode? Is this a big that I’m experiencing?

Electric lightnings and earlier harriers will be a dream come true if we get a 1960s matchmaker.

please please please limit weapons to 1960s stuff only tho. I dont wanna be seeing aim-9G on a 1968 plane that was in service until the 80s

Regarding an earlier suggestion I made - do you have plans for a possible ground version of Nuclear Thunder mode to address community requests for longer matches and larger maps for top-tier players?

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Let me give my idea and few cents to the current “Nuclear Escalation” mode. Tbf, I think, the current implementation is not really great.

Don’t get me wrong, there are nice ideas and improvements from the April event. I like the idea of having naval ships as targets, maybe we also could improve on this.

But there are more downsides than upsides. First and kinda most important to me is the point, that it is made a “free for all nations” mode. I see the point, that ysou want to have as many players as possible, but in the april event, players without any plane in the BR range also were able to joint, so I don’t see a point. It also had the possibility to use planes, you maybe don’t even have unlocked wich makes the mode also interesting and also some special abilities wich only apply in this mode like the ARM and nuclear bombs.
And I think those are important points we could use to make this mode way more fun to play, so here are my ideas:

First of all, don’t make it only one single mode to stay forever. This will become boring at some point because it always is the same. The hype for Nuclear Thunder came not only because it was a great mode but also because it was something new, somwthing refreshing. So to still have this effect, give us some rotation, maybe weekly, mayby monthly. What do I mean with rotation: Well, don’t make it a mode for every nation at once but more historical lineups and modes. While in one week/month there is a pacific warfare mode where Japan fights against the US in the pacific in WW2 in the next one we get a cold war eurpean crisis, maybe even seperated by regions like central europe, south europe or northern europe/scandinavia. We even could vary in the timeline. While maybe there is one time a european crisis in the early cold war somewhen later it could be in the late cold war (and don’t only allow a single BR range. An F117 for example would fit better in a late CW scenario or early modern Warfare). Inbetween there are several other scenarios, maybe even a scenario for a chinese invasion of Taiwan, where players of chinese planes depending on their vehicles could join one or the other side, but don’t just allow every nations at once but only fitting ones for the scenario. The matches even could be asymetric. While for example one nation has air bases, the other one launches from carriers, wich are defended by a very strog strike group, and only can bring naval planes (and maybe helicopters).
I also see the possibility to make the Nuclear Escalation more dynamic wich means, that various things could happen, maybe depending on how the match is going. There could maybe a strike group around a modernised Iowa Battleship appear or for russian side around a fleet around a kirov cruiser wich give naval support as long as they’re not sunk and could effectively destroy the SAM sites or in another match there spawns a group of mobile ballistic missile launchers wich will fire nuclear missiles if not destroyed in time. Those are only two examples for how I could imagine, there could be way more. With this, every match will be different to the other and this will keep players interested.

Another big point of the Nuclear Thunder event was the use of special planes, in this case, the strategic bombers. Bring this back. There are several intersting planes/Bombers we could introduce into this gamemode. I see for example Bombers like the Avro Vulcan, Mirage IV, B1, B2 or Tu-160 and Tu-22 in their destinct role. Depending on the timeline, we also could see long range cruise missiles like AGM-86 on a B-52 or JASSM. Or some electronic warfare planes, wich have an important support role in protecting the team, like an EF-111 Raven for example. I think, that there probably are some more planes, wich could find its role in “Nuclear Escalation” wich may wouldn’t fit very well into the normal battles like also maybe AWACS planes. You even could use it for testing some mechanics or weapons. For example could Nuclear Escalation be used to test something like an F-22 Raptor or the Meteor and IRIS-T missiles or cluster ammunition as some special vehicles/loadout only avaiable in this event before they may will be avaiable for all matches.

Over all, give this mode more variety in form of switching timelines, scenarios and with this also the maps. Make it more historical accurate and more dynamic. I think this would make the mode more enjoying and keep interest over a longer time periode and at some times get players, who are more interested in another timeline and not in modern jets.

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will there be any possibility of player controlled spaa in the future?

Which means yes, but “in longer” term… might not be this year.
That’s a feat i would like to see ,too.

idk how they would do it but it would be nice to see tanks in there to

Completely agree with this, I would really emphasize having the big bombs back and AWACS would be amazing it would give use to like the F-14s in this mode.

Does that tank even have a suggestion yet?