Now With the M1 being Brought to 10.7, Can We Finally Receive M833?

[Dinfire]

@Lyn_poster

and talking about yourself irl you’re acting like a lolcow bruh.

This is why I can’t treat you all with respect any longer. You regularly sling monikers at others and then act shocked and cry to mods about being abused when you yourselves are the problem in these forums.

[Lyn_poster]

@Dinfire

then act shocked and cry to mods

???
When have i cried to the mods before if i remember correctly thats what you do you’re just projecting now back to the topic

@Dinfire

I’ve given multiple reasons why the data cannot be quantified, and you dismissed them. Kick rocks.

Ive never dismissed them because i havent seen them so who are you talking about thats dismissed them?

[MotorolaCRO]

@ARK_BOI

for M1 with M833 I don’t see reasons why it should not get it despite being OK rounds people forget that most European tanks get DM33 which is better than M833 start from around 9.0+
M1 is 10.7 tanks other like Leopard 2A4 have 120mm DM23 sit at same BR then we have Russia that got 3BM42 starting from 9.7 and Brits start to get L26 at 10.7 which is okay I’ll take it does not start too early to get it

This all looks fine until you realize vehicle’s shell isn’t the only factor in determining vehicle’s BR. Not knowing this in late 2024 is worrying.

[Dinfire]

@Lyn_poster

Ive never dismissed them because i havent seen them so who are you talking about thats dismissed them?

You want to dismiss evidence to the contrary about the M1, that’s your decision. Now quit gaslighting.

[Casino_Knight]

I fear your common sense is falling upon deaf ears, as usual.

[Lyn_poster]

Kid how am i gaslighting ive never seen your posts that apparently show you disproving casinos data

[Dinfire]

@Casino_Knight

I fear your common sense is falling upon deaf ears.

This coming from the guy who claims to be the only voice of reason? I think not.

[Dinfire]

@MotorolaCRO

This all looks fine until you realize vehicle’s shell isn’t the only factor in determining vehicle’s BR. Not knowing this in late 2024 is worrying.

Repeating the same blurb won’t make you correct.

[MotorolaCRO]

@Dinfire

This isn’t about the vehicle’s BR, this is about the performance of the rounds, sorry that you and others continue to think that adding a single round to the M1 that doesn’t even match DM23 would be worth uptiering it to 11.0.

You can’t just ignore BR while talking about a single metric.
Some tanks have great shells but guess what, they suck in other areas.
Some tanks have bad shells but guess what, they shine in other areas.

This is why all pros/cons when compared to contemporaries should be looked at when discussing any changes to a vehicle in question.

[Dinfire]

@MotorolaCRO

You can’t just ignore BR while talking about a single metric.

Again, metrics are also situational, and I’ve already brought up how the M833 would not be OP, but you argue that for no reason other than you don’t see a need for it.

Or, barring that, you think it would make it too good a tank and it would go up in BRs.

Neither of these statements holds water.

Either it becomes MASSIVELY OP with M833 (which I highly doubt), then it can be moved up to 11.0, as you worry.

Or, it’ll lighten the load for players of the M1. Which is my goal.

[ARK_BOI]

you gonna say mobility speed gun handling and reload? (Leopard2A4 have all that too with better round and 120mm gun and if i can pick which one i can pick going to battle i picked Leopard above Abrams)
I should play Abrams like light tanks?
like most of the map in this game light tanks are playable at the being with
M833 is not overpower round that can lol pen anything in that BR (don’t worry it can’t lol pen TURM) even DM33 105 are better than this one

[Dinfire]

@ARK_BOI

you gonna say mobility speed gun handling and reload? (Leopard2A4 have all that too with better round and 120mm gun)

Fun fact, every Leopard 2 in 10.7 of all nations plays exactly the same, and remain usable even for newbies. The M1 KVT does not.

[MotorolaCRO]

@Dinfire

Repeating the same blurb won’t make you correct.

Object 292/120S/M60 AMBT all have top tier worthy shells but still are far from top tier, why is that ?
XM-1 has top tier worthy mobility and gun handling but is still far from top tier, why is that ?

This literally proves vehicles aren’t balanced with only a single metric in mind. You can take this information as you wish.

[Dinfire]

@MotorolaCRO

Object 292/120S/M60 AMBT all have top tier worthy shells but still are far from top tier, why is that ?

120S is literally an 8.7 M60 hull that can be penned by Tiger IIs, what are you even on?

Object 292 is ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS in the Marketplace.

M60 AMBT even MORE.

How do these align with the M1?

Hint: They don’t. But Object 292 is a great back-up at top tier because hey, lolpen round. Not lolcow.

[Lyn_poster]

@Dinfire

120S is literally an 8.7 M60 hull that can be penned by Tiger IIs, what are you even on?

It has an M1A1 turret and M829A1
Id say that aligns with the M1 pretty well unless you’re blind

[MotorolaCRO]

@ARK_BOI

you gonna say mobility speed gun handling and reload? (Leopard2A4 have all that too with better round and 120mm gun and if i can pick which one i can pick going to battle i picked Leopard above Abrams)
I should play Abrams like light tanks?

First of all, 2A4 has a 1s longer reload speed.
Second of all, 2A4 has worse armor profile than M1, so if anything you should be playing 2A4 as a light tank.

If I can pick which one I can take to battle I’d pick M1 over 2A4, what we gonna do about it ?

[Dinfire]

@MotorolaCRO

First of all, 2A4 has a 1s longer reload speed.
Second of all, 2A4 has worse armor profile than M1, so if anything you should be playing 2A4 as a light tank.

If I can pick which one I can take to battle I’d pick M1 over 2A4, what we gonna do about it ?

I know my gameplay in Leopard 2s is better than a M1. And I play them both moreorless the same.

[MotorolaCRO]

@Dinfire

120S is literally an 8.7 M60 hull that can be penned by Tiger IIs, what are you even on?

It has a top tier worthy round and since you’re so overly fixated over a single metric (ammo) it should go straight up to 12.0 by your beautiful logic.
Good thing Gaijin has some common sense and will look at vehicle’s overall performance, not just a single metric like you want them to.

[P1tZO]

@Dinfire

Object 292 is ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS in the Marketplace.

damn bruh i didnt know gaijin balances tanks based on their price in the marketplace you must be kidding me ☠☠

[Dinfire]

@MotorolaCRO

It has a top tier worthy round and since you’re so overly fixated over a single metric (ammo) it should go straight up to 12.0 by your beautiful logic.
Good thing Gaijin has some common sense and will look at vehicle’s overall performance, not just a single metric like you want them to.

Again, bypassing my earlier point:

metrics are also situational, and I’ve already brought up how the M833 would not be OP, but you argue that for no reason other than you don’t see a need for it.

Or, barring that, you think it would make it too good a tank and it would go up in BRs.

Neither of these statements holds water.

Either it becomes MASSIVELY OP with M833 (which I highly doubt), then it can be moved up to 11.0, as you worry.

Or, it’ll lighten the load for players of the M1. Which is my goal.