Name me a time in the last 2 years when the US was trouncing everyone with 65 or 70 percent win rates.
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This is already the case in game because the type 74 with the type 93 shell didn’t receive that shell until 1993 whereas the type 16 which entered service in 2007 doesn’t get it for balance reasons
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Two years ago, December. According to the WT Data Project the US had a WR second only to Sweden, at ~65%. You want to know why? There’s literally no reason. They added the SEP w TUSK in October, and the WR plummeted in November, but then climbed to insane levels in December. Between these months, nothing significant changed. Just a rotation of players, as good ones probably came to play US to get the SEP and F-16 combo, before jumping ship to nations with players that weren’t so trash.
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2 years and all the high skill players jumped ship and suddenly everything is in a sub-40 win rate.
If you want players to stick around, lower the skill floor in the US Ground vehicles so they have parity.
Why would good players stick around if the bad players are still shitting the bed and ruining games? It’s just more fun to not play US at that point.
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Why not just have the real reload rate we’re talking about a 105 mm Shell versus a 120 mm shell at that point
Because bad players with a lower skill floor learn to become better if they feel they have a chance at winning.
Welcome to the game War Thunder where reload rate has explicitly been said to be used as a tool of balance.
So do you want to answer my question?
It would provide parity as they shell would of almost equal penetration to the leopard 2A4 whilst having the same reload.
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So because bad players do poorly, they should get help instead of just learning to play already strong vehicles? But what happens if you make those already strong vehicles stronger? In the hands of good players they become oppressive. Balancing around lowest common denominators allows for good players to abuse broken vehicles and seal club. Should Russia 10.X get similar buffs because it suffers from the same issues? Fuck no.
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And thus we come back to the crux of what you alp are arguing. You’re saying the M833 round (which isn’t even that OP a round and is a placebo) would somehow imbalance teams and make the US ground oppressive? As oppressive as German and USSR winrates the last few years?
Or maybe it would encourage players to want to stick with it.
If the balancing is done off player performance, the US should be the most handheld of the bunch, and yet they aren’t. So what’s to be said of this paradox?
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Dm23 has higher pen than than m833
“Make my nation handheld so the trash players can compete”
Its on them for not learning how to play the nation they chose if you lower the skill floor which would mean dropping the BRs again it would make the good players go back to the US and abuse the broken vehicles for a few months till they get moved up again
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Yes by about 10mm. Incredible.
So you can have a 6.5s reload instead then since you’ve pointed out the very minor difference I already alluded to.
Sound good?
Great.
Parity.
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“Skill Issue” is a DEFYN decal, not a way of life.
If you’re consistently going to crap on those players, like you said, they’ll go where it’s easier. Making the vehicle easier for entry-level players will mean more want to stay and play.
How is this a negative outcome for y’all? Do you not want the game to grow?
Also has a far higher weight and superior spall modifier.
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If the Abrams at 10.7 doesn’t need M833, then neither do any other 10.7 MBT need their rounds that give them 400mm+ penetration.
The Abrams, Arietes, Leopards, Leclercs, Merkavas, T-series, etc. can all equally not have access to 400mm+ penetration APFSDS. Therefore they can all suffer equally in that regard, then.
These bogus arguments about the Abrams not needing M833 are utter trash. If the Abrams doesn’t need it then no other 10.7 MBT needs 400mm+ of pen on a shell, either.
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I want a balanced game i dont want abrams at 10.0 with m833 because shitters suck
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Nor does 9.0 Japan need type 93 to this same effect
Well 833 seem fine it not M900 level they should have it long ago
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