Now With the M1 being Brought to 10.7, Can We Finally Receive M833?

Today, Russia has dropped to a 43percent win rate for the first time in I don’t remember how long… with T72AV TURMS spam.

Meanwhile, USA top tier remains at a sub-50 percent win rate.

The only solidly above 55 positive win rate is the M1, 120S, and AGS, and again, that’s because of decompression and who it goes against and is allied with. Unless you want to count CCVL and XM8, with a hundred battles each.

Show the whole BR range in your cherrypicking. China, Italy, Japan, and the others.

You’ve not mentioned chinese, italian, japanese or other nations. Your entire argument has been around russian tanks or german tanks. I’m providing you with the data for available for those tanks you’re claiming are so much better because you don’t want to look it up yourself. Or you did and just didn’t like what you saw.

This is the first time in months I can remember USSR falling below a 50 percent win rate. And it’s because it’s played so much by new players and oh yeah, you have to face against each other so often.

I posted the win rates from a month ago for the vehicles within that BR range and they still were below 50% and performing inferior to the M1, which you ignored conveniently. Also your spurious claims are still unsubstantiated.

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My opinion is that yes the 733 seems out match. But m833 may be too much.

You know full well I’ve been arguing the entire BR range matters, now stop playing ignorant, Mr. Smart Guy. Show the whole BR range.

The link you provided say the USA has the worst WR at that br. And the picture you provided number of battles where to low not to be personal stats.

You do realise you can click on the cells and it will tell you EXACTLY what the win rates for vehicles within that bracket are, right? Well you do now.

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Factually false.

I’ve mentioned that every single nation’s MBT at this tier has a 120 or 125 and that only US has a 105 main battle tank. Instead of a M1, we now have a M1 turret on an M60 chassis.

You know full well I’ve been arguing the entire BR range matters

And you have been told by myself and others that it is irrelevant because vehicles are balanced based upon their individual performance.

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And you have been told that that is a asinine decision and you are a moron for repeating it like all vehicles operate in a vacuum.

You are free to believe that the way gaijin balances is asinine and complain about it all you wish.

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Yes you have shown that you will deny the most basic facts readily whenever it conflicts with how you are feeling.

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I mean, if you REALLY wanna argue those stats, you’re also not including the lineup those usually go into. I get FAR more kills per match with my 120S’ stock round than I do with M833 (goes in line with fighting against Russian nearly every match and why the US had to upgrade the 105mm APFSDS round inventory).

Also doesn’t help the Russian stats when so many new players are buying instantly to 10.3 Russia because you can create an entire lineup using premiums. The top 9 in number of battles are the premiums. I wonder if the website could do a weight on up/down tier and player level. Either way, the US M1 Abram isn’t that far above the ability of the literal spam of new players at that BR for Russia.

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Still waiting on the whole BR range, punk. Come on, you don’t get to cherrypick, show them all.

Waiting on what? Do it yourself, you have the link.

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Oh he already dismissed the line-ups as a separate discussion and not worthy of this thread. You know, because he’s smart like that.

I mean, if you REALLY wanna argue those stats, you’re also not including the lineup those usually go into. I get FAR more kills per match with my 120S’ stock round than I do with M833 (goes in line with fighting against Russian nearly every match and why the US had to upgrade the 105mm APFSDS round inventory).

Vehicles are balanced based on their individual performance. These are the statistics that we have available to use. These statistics indicate the M1 is performing adequately. The fact that gaijin has not moved or changed the M1 for a prolonged period despite being frequently played indicates their internal metrics deem it to be performing adequately.

Also doesn’t help the Russian stats when so many new players are buying instantly to 10.3 Russia because you can create an entire lineup using premiums. The top 9 in number of battles are the premiums. I wonder if the website could do a weight on up/down tier and player level. Either way, the US M1 Abram isn’t that far above the ability of the literal spam of new players at that BR for Russia.

KVT is also a premium that new players can buy and is perfoming better than the russian premiums at and around that BR.

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Oh he already dismissed the line-ups as a separate discussion and not worthy of this thread.

Because it is. More than one person has explained to you already that line-ups have no bearing on this topic and is a separate topic.

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I can’t use anything on that because it say the m1 abrams has 0 battles

You have the link. Do it yourself.

Judging by the fact that you don’t even know that premium vehicles are shown separate to the tech tree vehicles in the table, you haven’t even looked at it. As expected you have no interest in data that goes against your narrative.

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Ah so you only poorly read it, understood.

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And still far worse than every other nation… your only argument so far has been on line to “BuT mY rUsSiAn tAnK wOuLd SuFfEr” as if it can’t frontally pen every tank with minimal difficulty because it’s running a top tier round at 11.0…

And still far worse than every other nation… your only argument so far has been on line to “BuT mY rUsSiAn tAnK wOuLd SuFfEr” as if it can’t frontally pen every tank with minimal difficulty because it’s running a top tier round at 11.0…

Far worse than every other nation? The data would disagree with you.

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Have you thought that maybe, JUST maybe, you should go play the M1 before trying to say how it is? It’s impressive how hard you’re pushing for it not to get a SLIGHTLY better round with 0 battles in it. Again, the Russian’s have a complete premium line-up at that BR. Why would you not expect them to do worse and funny how they get way better fight after that BR

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