Now With the M1 being Brought to 10.7, Can We Finally Receive M833?

M900 has more penetration than 3BM42. What you result in is a tank that is more mobile, with better traverse and can lolpen anything. It’s really not a difficult concept to understand that this would make probably every other ground nation obsolete.

As I said earlier, this game is not a Soviet-US vacuum. There are other games for that. Or even movies. Which all let you live out the power fantasy perfectly fine.

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Because he isn’t looking for a balanced game, he’s a US main looking for the US to have every advantage possible over the other vehicles from other nations it faces.

So what if the only two things russian MBTs have going for them is frontal armour and penetration (which they aren’t even the best at half the time)? We should give the US vehicles shells which negate their armour so there is literally no reason to ever play anything but the US.

It just makes sense (if you view it from their position).

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As a Brit main it would also basically result in them having a boosted challenger that is better is every way lmao.

I mean you’re essentially describing the 120S which already is that. It’s a got about 4hp/t less than the challengers but in return is far more of a hull down monstrosity than the challenger mk2 or mk3 could ever dream of (despite the mk3 being higher in BR).

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Why should soviets get shells that negate everyones armor from 8.7 upwards?

  1. They don’t always have shells that negate everyones armour from 8.7 upwards
  2. As has been pointed out by many different people now, soviet vehicles are almost always worse in near every other regard other than frontal armour and penetration, and even then they rarely have the highest penetration shells at a given BR
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The issue is that even if the rounds were lower pen, people can target the Abrams’ wham turret ring with perfect precision because we are aiming with mice and 0 parallax. That’s why I call top tier “cannon repair simulator”, any random can just shoot a tiny circle barrel after a little bit of practise

Those two have more than plenty of advantages when compared to 3BM42 wielding tanks, they surely don’t need yet another one.

Because they seriously lack in many other areas and they need a positive side to keep them balanced ?

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people do not always hit the turret ring, in fact i’ve haven’t been shot through the turret ring in a long time. all my deaths come from shots through the LFP or directly through the turret which then pens the ammo compartment, or i get hit with a air to ground missile from a S.U

yeah, try to play with on a team full of one quitters the week that a event vehicle is avaiable 😂
I’m not the one that is crying on the forums asking for a shell that is gonna magicaly make the abrams supreme, if you like to see my profile so much, you will see that the abrams stats is better than the leopard 2a4


1 death leavers you say? :D

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

We both know that playing with one quiiters is a disgrace, both when event vehicles are avaiable and when sales are happening

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That’s neat, do tell how that works in urban maps or the fact most maps force frontal fights

Or the Commanders cupola 🙄

The number of times some soviet/communist MBT has domed me from over a grand is ridiculous.

This isn’t about the 120S.



This is the new norm for M1 KVT and M1 players.

Now compare and contrast with, say, the 774 round against all the other tanks you mentioned.

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Balance?

10.3s versus M1s and M1 KVTs.

Where’s the balance?

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kinda skipped down a lot so idk if this has been said but, could it mainly just be the maps being in favor of close, frontal combat?

Basically reducing most of the negative trait’s of USSR (full frontal Armored ) tank’s while also punishing the NATO long range (mainly armored turret) tank’s advantage’s?

(A conquest style game mode on a large ec style Battlefield could show the m1’s strength’s a lot more) (In other word’s, the m1 is the p-51 of tank’s)

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Absolutely a fact. Unfortunately, even at long ranges, the guns on most contemporaries will still outperform the 774, much less the 735 on the M1s. Hence my request for 883 stands.

Problem is the Abrams lose even in longer range confrontations because the armament is lacking and the turret ring is an absolutely cake zone to pen even at longer ranges while the now 10.7 Abrams are having to make do with a useless APFSDS.

Yes, being worse in some areas while being better in others is balance.

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