Also first is a render with second on being a T-90A that was used as a target on firing range
I wish I had a t-90. Wonder how much they’ll go for on ebay after the war. You can already get pretty much the entire ratnik kit for peanuts.
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Hi :) try to keep it on topic and keep PM talk out of the thread, if you want to move the chit chat to pm’s please do so but don’t involve it here.
Thanks o/
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Gladly but we already covered that they won’t respond to PMs, thank you Kat.
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Ukraine’s Black market probably go crazy right now
I highly doubt one would ever be shipped for you exclusively, maybe in some museum, need to share after all)))
Same reason I play other kids games.
Looking at the number of disingenuous arguments you can find across the forums, this place is anything but rational. You have people unironically claiming that lack of evidence is evidence. Most people here can’t form a rational argument.
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Except that’s not what I’m doing here, and I’ve proven that over and over and over and over again. So, rather than make snide comments and say stuff out the side of your necks to entice anger on others, maybe y’all can just accept that my observation on the 833 not being included is incongruous and that it is not a ‘buff’, but merely a correction to the game model and its performance.
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Well given the fact we won’t be given our mobile AA units that’s two pieces, some balance must be met. Unless you want the only top tier SPAA to be Russian or finally have two-piece SPAA with incredible range since the US left behind the SPAAG concept as it wasn’t in their doctrine.
Oh sorry, let me name a single US tank prototype that’s got 695mm of penetration while fighting 1980s tanks in a 1990s design ~looks at the Object 292~ Or the countless post 1990s and multiple 2000s era tanks Russia gets that fights those SAME 1980s build… There’s a difference between a prototype added to flesh out a tree and something added for the giggles of it. And that’s the same with EVERY country in aircrafts. How does that apply to tanks?
So where’s the Thumper then to counter the Object 292?
Oooo, pulled a IFV with a 30mm that gets 121mm of pen IF it gets a max uptier… how does that realistically apply to the conversation? It’s not like it gets anything to destroy the T-64A from range… So do explain how a BMP-2M is balanced at 10.3? I’d love to see what you come up with to try to validate that.
Oh, you mean the standard round that worked for a while BECAUSE it had a good penetration capability. That’s crazy! Almost like that’s why the US replaced their 105mm ammunition because it couldn’t deal with the threats of the time already.
Oh wow, almost like it got that because the front armor of the T90 stops it or something. If we’re gonna be balanced, why is it okay that the Abrams require pin-point accuracy to knock a T series but not vice versa?
Again, almost like the Mango round is good and why it wasn’t upgraded. Crazy idea that they would have different technology in real life and would upgrade it to counter the new threats.
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Precisely.
I don’t complain that T-72A at 9.3 gets ERA that deflects 774.
I don’t complain about T-72Bs at 10.3 getting ERA to deflect 774.
I’m asking for 833 for the Abrams. Nothing more, nothing less.
Most of those Russian tanks can absolutely soak a few hits if you know how to drive them, and as frustrating as it might be, I accept that that is historical and balanced.
The same can be true here for 833 being added as a fourth-tier round for the M1.
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Oh yeah just did my own testing recreating where your pen on the leopard was that auto bounced and guess what im right mostly it autobounced like i said doing damage in the exact same spot
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did i ever say you were a russian supporter? No.
If that’s the case, why doesn’t the same happen on the M1 Abram? Except the game makes it a shot trap that makes the APFSDS go through the turret ring unlike literally every other tank
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Yeah, my experiences with you say otherwise
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Arctic, I don’t mind you as much. You’ve never been one to really mess around with me. You got a good rep. Do you honestly believe my thought process here is completely screwed up here?
you can simply go to the old forums and watch how people treated these people, and some of them are the same people here. Please give back the US right ammo - General & Upcoming - War Thunder - Official Forum Abram survivability - Medium Vehicles - War Thunder - Official Forum
We’ve talked about this issue for years
9.0+ US tanks need M833 and why - General & Upcoming - War Thunder - Official Forum
gaijin doesn’t care
Dude, your very first response ITT after the OP is disingenuous. I was gonna make a post with a bunch of your disingenuous posts from just this thread in it, but it genuinely felt mean. You genuinely seem to treat any disagreement as a personal attack.
Ah yes, let me hit the same place twice… It would make more sense to give the shooters POV and not yours as yes, there’s a dead spot on the drivers hatc.
But let’s ignore this is what the M1 would fight and this is the normal penetration showing
Actually, let me also add that NO Object 292 players is gonna shoot the hull when the APFSDS goes through the cheek in excess of 2km…
Keep in mind that’s on flight ground and when I’m shooting down on people with type 93 out of a type 74 it will go through the top plate because 2° of angle can change a lot at top tier
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