You could go around and around, why doesn’t 2k get a better round and is at 9.7 with no thermals?
Why does the onlyfant mk.2 get thermals, a good round and LRF at 9.3?
You guys are trying to make one of the most balanced areas(10.7) and make it unbalanced for…reasons? I guess?
We should have these conversations. Gaijin absolutely should be far more consistent with how it implements vehicles.
Yes, that is the one thing i am referring to when I said “it is worst in every way except one”
I’m still not getting the actual need. Nothing has changed between this month and last(when it apparently didn’t need it) except you can’t dunk on 9.3s anymore.
Except they don’t listen except to the loudest fan base(hence by the US top tier vehicles got buffs before the Arietes did)
Not every single vehicle is the same, some are just better than others. Im tired of pretending that the M1s are some poor forgetting vehicle. They are fine, I dare say, good even.
You mean the turret ring bug we been waiting 4 years on and was acknowledged 10 months ago and no feedback?
The DU article because “USA adds only pork to their tanks, they can’t possibly improve armor or suspension”?
Not really, because ammo a vehicle can fire isn’t the sole factor in determining vehicle’s BR.
They don’t need to have equivalent rounds if they’re better in other metrics, which makes them balanced in the end.
If you start looking at tanks as packages as a whole, it might make things much easier to understand.
And that’s what I’m doing and you’re replying no.
A T72A gets ERA that can stop 774 at 9.3, and 3BM22 is able to pen an M1 Abrams reliably except from front.
T72s at 10.3, same deal, plus 3BM42.
Seems to me the US deck gets stacked .3 BR higher with options, slightly better situational reload, and then told to suck it up.
I would said that fire power was the one of the main advantage. with 6.0 sec reload with DM33 (120mm) at 10.7
while yes ariete P are worst than M1 Abrams but so does ariete P against Leopard 2A4. M833 won’t change this fact. or make Abrams surpass ariete P fire power
Again with M774 fix coming. M833 should get add to M1 Abrams
First of all, having 1.3 - 2.1s faster reload isn’t just “slightly better”.
Second of all, you still failed to see massive disadvantages T-72s have when compared to M1, i.e. you still haven’t looked at the whole package.
Yeah right, Gaijin gives you one of the best 10.7 MBTs and you have to suck it up, audacity on some people is crazy.
And that’s why I say you and the others like you saying as much is infuriating when you say, “You’re being absurd.”
Again, the round reload is situational so long as you don’t get hit. But everything about the units in question are designed to hurt the M1 to the point that it WON’T have a loader and that ultra-fast reload.
And let’s not get into the turret ring going down. The only advantage the M1 has is that its turret ring is modeled appropriately to resist MOST APCs and IFVs with rapid firing autocannons.
So I would argue that yours is the one holding the audacity - and the gall - to declare that M883 is so imbalancing to your gameplay.
Ah, I missed that context.
Yeah, from what I gather M774 is overperforming by around 22mm, in that case adding M833 would make more sense.
But if M774 is never changed, I don’t see any real need for M833 currently.
Welp it only a matter of time.
You see i’m all for correcting shell performance. But seeing as how Gaijin done things. I’d imagine they’ll fix M774 and left M833 out. hope i’m wrong on that tho.
Other tanks can have their loader knocked out or damaged autoloader. You’re acting like changeable reload speed (or not being able to load a round in) is just affecting M1, which is quite wrong.
You can still aim and fire with your horizontal drive being damaged. I did it countless times in my 500+ respawns using various M1s.
M1 simply doesn’t need a better round, simple as. It can and will perform fine with M774.
So why bring up the 2AV being 10.0 and the XM1 being 9.0?
Are you arguing the M60s are so much better than the comparable Leopards that the Leopards need drastically better ammunition to compensate.
I am looking at the tanks as a whole. I’m also looking at the historical trends in game and how Gaijin traditionally maintains a clear double standard for how it implements ammo.
When they denied the buff they actually buffed every single 120 abrams(literally because of how nuts US mains were going)
I’ve never seen them make a dev blog to respond to vehicles not getting buffed(except for the US)
Every single tank has modeling issues, it just the US.
M60 TTS at 9.0 has M774 which is better than DM23 found on Leopard A1A1 which sits at 9.0 as well.
Clearly you aren’t and clearly Gaijin isn’t maintaining a double standard for ammo based on the example above.
I would say it’s the only thing it has going.
If they are nerfing m774, then I understand the need for the m833 but if that doesn’t happen then I really don’t think the shell is needed.
coughs in Leopard 1A5 with DM33
Oh sorry, you were saying.
Yes, M60 has 774. And the rest of the 125-equipped USSR tanks possess 3BM22 that make M60’s hull butter and its ammo go pop.
Again, not an excuse not to include M833 on the M1.
I think you replied to the wrong person.
I hate when I misclick crap.