It’s quite funny seeing you get defensive about people intending to test your claims of the round struggling at certain ranges in-game. Even funnier when you can’t come up with a decent excuse in advance as to why the results wouldn’t count.
Now if this isn’t arguing based on feelings, I don’t know what is.
You actively put yourself out of the discussion when you don’t even have the tank in question. Again, you’re a British main, and I still have the stats copied. To say that I’ve lost interest in your opinion and testing would not be an exaggeration.
So while you’re entitled to your opinion on the forums, I am fully capable of dismissing an argument made from ignorance.
You actively put yourself out of the discussion when you don’t even have the tank in question. Again, you’re a British main, and I still have the stats copied. To say that I’ve lost interest in your opinion and testing would not be an exaggeration.
Actually I think you’ll find I didn’t considering this is a matter that effects all vehicles within the BR range and not just the M1, also because my primary arguments I have made are not reliant on me having the vehicle as a factor, and also because I am drawing on the experiences provided within the thread from other people.
Me not having the vehicle is also not an issue when it comes to testing because the person I’ll be testing with has the vehicle, and I have the 2A4 so I can put your claims to the test fully. You are now simply worried that that claims you have been trying to make as an absolute fact will be disproven so are trying to weasel your way out in any way possible. It’s not going to work I will warn you.
So while you’re entitled to your opinion on the forums, I am fully capable of dismissing an argument made from ignorance.
Ironic given you routinely ignore even the most basic factual statements that have been brought up in this thread if it goes against your biased feelings. The testing will speak for itself, regardless of if the results are in conflict with your feelings or not.
No, not ignoring. Yours is an argument of ignorance since you don’t even play the tank in regular servers.
So either get the M1 and do 100 matches, or… well, you won’t, so that’s the end of that side of your argument.
The irony of you going on about ignorance when you immediately took up a defensive posture and immediately seek to dismiss any testing results before it even takes place in regards to the claims you were trying to pretend were a matter of fact is golden.
It is not lost on the more attentive people in this thread, I assure you.
Again, you are off topic and attempting character refutation based out of willful ignorance when you’ve never even played the tank. You haven’t brought up a single reasonable argument, instead referencing others who have been debunked and refuted.
When challenged by P1T, you demanded he stop being lazy.
It’s you who are lazy and not worth further discussion.
French 7.7 mediums have access to 100mm solid shot and that’s it. I doubt that shell is good for it’s BR but guess what, those tanks have a 4s reload to compensate. Having tradeoffs is balanced.
Ask yourself why is that the case. Is it because we don’t want to play on them or because the game doesn’t give them to us ?
It’s well known that WT is turning into CoD when it comes to maps.
Used it more than plenty above that range, unfortunately for you it works just fine.
Testing things in a custom match is a pretty good way to see how bad/good things you’re testing are. The round will perform the same, doesn’t matter if you have 1 opponent or 300.
I did that, M774 works just fine.
Testing the claims you made in this thread is not “off-topic”. Unless you’re conceding that your claims were off-topic in the first place.
You haven’t brought up a single reasonable argument, instead referencing others who have been debunked and refuted.
I have, as many others have. It doesn’t matter though because you don’t care what anyone who doesn’t agree with you has to say on the matter and have systematically sought out the most irrelevant, unrelated and nonsensical reasons to dismiss or handwave anyone who disagrees with you throughout this thread.
You deciding to plug your ears and shut your eyes and deny basic facts that have been presented to you through this thread does not mean that no arguments were made. This is extremely childish behaviour.
When challenged by P1T, you demanded he stop being lazy.
Yes I did, because all the arguments made are all within their thread by everybody who made them and there is no reason for arguments to be repeated numerous times over and bloat the thread unnecessarily simply because someone is too lazy to do their own reading. It’s a disgustingly entitled attitude and that you agree with it, fits.
And I have actively said I wanted it to not be and to get larger maps. I actively get 2 or 3 large maps in top tier and 10.7 and above, unlike y’all. Why it is so, I don’t know.
But I’m not a fan of constant COD play.
Insofar as you saying 774 works at long range, I haven’t seen those same results, so your experience doesn’t match that of many other M1 players.
Testing things in a custom match is a pretty good way to see how bad/good things you’re testing are. The round will perform the same, doesn’t matter if you have 1 opponent or 300.
Well you see he’s already laying the groundwork for dismissing testing in custom games because it isn’t on the live server as indicated by this line “No, not ignoring. Yours is an argument of ignorance since you don’t even play the tank in regular servers.”.
Basically any poorly founded excuse regardless of how little sense it makes because he is afraid that the results will not be in his favour after having made such absolute statements throughout the thread. Clearly a man of science.
The amount of opponents absolutely matters in game, hence why I don’t regard custom matches as much else other than for fun.
Number of opponents does not influence shell performance against vehicle armour.
Experience with science trumps willful ignorance and science any given day.
And in this case, gameplay matters much more to experience than mere tests.
Sadly, you can’t provide that sort of experience because you’ve never played the tank in question in game, except as an opponent.
Being a fan or not doesn’t matter. Game will give us what it wants and it’s pretty obvious smaller maps are in a large majority.
You can only shoot at one enemy at the time, so doing tests in custom matches regarding ammo and armor performances will accurately depict what’s going to happen in a live game.
Experience does not mean anything in respects to testing your claim. Shell penetration at set distances versus armour does not change depending upon experience. No variables in what is going to be tested change with “experience”.
Sadly, you can’t provide that sort of experience because you’ve never played the tank in question in game, except as an opponent.
I could be John Abrams himself and you still would handwave anything I say because I don’t agree with you. Just as you do to everyone in this thread who does have experience using the M1 and has disagreed with you.
I don’t really care if your feelings do not agree with what the test results show, they will be posted for those that care to inform themselves and can verify themselves.
This isn’t merely about testing.
If you have the time to test in custom matches, you have the time to play actual live games and show us the results.
As P1T and others have said, the M1 Abrams is a fun tank to drive, not to shoot.
So regardless of what yours or anyone else’s results are under a controlled test, it won’t change how other players feel when driving the M1 in regular gameplay.
I will remind you again that no variables that influence shell penetration vs armour at a given range change between custom and live games.
Citing “it’s only a custom game” is irrelevant as no variables within the testing are influenced by any factors that change between live and custom.
A patently false statement from echo chamber. Server lag, packet loss, and other variables all matter. K thanks bye.
A patently false statement from echo chamber
Wrong.
Server lag
Lag does not influence shell penetration vs armour at a given range. Lag works both ways and it can influence where a shot lands in relation to the intended point of aim, which is not a variable in this test as it is unrelated to initial claim being tested.
packet loss
Same as above.
other variables all matter.
Other variables, such as? Which other variables change between live and custom games when testing shell performance vs points of armour at a set distance?
It takes like 3 minutes to test everything needed and to see how effective M774 is at longer ranges. In that time period I doubt you can play more than a single live game.
If tests show that M774 is usable at longer ranges I’m afraid people should stop asking for unnecessary handholds and just aim better.