Now With the M1 being Brought to 10.7, Can We Finally Receive M833?

Indeed, but I sadly do not have the ability to dissuade the one who has been derailing this thread for hours now.

Hmmm thats quite odd, where did I directly state that these snippets that I took modify spalling, last I checked, my post is asking which is a snip from DM23 which seems to elude you.

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Hmmm thats quite odd, where did I directly state that these snippets that I took modify spalling

Then why are you posting it when the topic of discussion before was only about weight and spalling in relation to damage. Shouldn’t have posted it all then should you?

I think you know already but the point I’m making with you is that you can’t just pull a random line of code and use it as an example without knowing what that actual line of code actually does or if it has any relation at all to the subject matter. I’m sure most of us have at least some brief coding experience and know very well that it isn’t as simple as that. You need someone who is capable and able to demonstrate it or the person/people who wrote it to tell you.

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You’re asking for a lower skill floor the only way you can lower it is with a lower br jesus christ

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My XM-1 M735 round bounced on an AFt-09 today… 50 meters away, straight in the front…

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10.7 Leclercs?

No.

“Lower skill floor”, to me, means that the vehicle’s capabilities and weapons and ammunition - at the Battle Rating it exists within - allow it to be used more effectively by a wider margin of players with more ease of use and utility.

“Higher skill ceiling” means that players with such vehicles can garner more effective use but only with expert use of the vehicle.

The difference between a prop plane pilot and a F22 Raptor pilot. Both can fly, but one can’t do the other guy’s job.

I am asking for parity at 10.7 with the M1 and M1 KVT to lower their skill floor for common users and players, who you dubbed “shitters”. By giving saidsame “shitters” a round (which several of you claim is merely a placebo) that is on par with the rest of the Battle Rating tanks the M1 and M1 KVT exist in, more of the lower skill players will be encouraged to learn the game and improve, thus improving the U.S. Ground experience.

Hence why I suggest M833 be added to both M1 and M1 KVT, just as DM33 was added to OF40 MTCA, just as Clickbait was given M829A2.

Now I’ll be testing several 10.7 Battle Rating tanks and give you kill results to determine if M774 is truly “as adequate” as you and others here have said.

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Didn’t France have 1 or 2 at 10.7? Could’ve swore they did, though if Gaijin uptiered them(again) it wouldn’t surprise me.

there is no ground vehicles between 10.0 and 11.7 in the french tt currently

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Bruh.

Lol but not lol.

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It’s why I argue you can’t even play the first Leclerc unless you’ve ground out the foldered S2. The AMX40, AMX-30 Super, and AMX32-120 will fight at top tier, but it’s obscenely difficult. I’ve done it.

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Good ole’ Gaijin’s BR system shenanigans.

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‘‘If the Leo 2A4, T-80B, Ariete (P), Vickers Mk7, T-72AV TURMS-T, T-80UD, Strv 121. etc can’t have 5s reload like the M1, then neither should the M1 have a 5s reload.’’

‘‘These bogus arguments about the Abrams having a better reload are utter trash. If those other MBT’s don’t need a 5s reload, then neither does the M1.’’

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Trying to Uno Reverse me doesn’t work here because I never said they shouldn’t get the realistic reloads.

But hey, guess what - The T-series autoloaders are dogwater and don’t go lower than roughly 6.5 seconds, so they will always reload slower regardless. Maybe the Ivans should build better autoloaders.

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Show me Italian win rates ever being low.

The tanks and lines are objectively worst then the US and yet it always has a better win rate.

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Then give up the 5 second reload! It’s as simple as that!

Or give everyone else a better reload!

Show me 16 Italian players versus 16 USSR players or 16 German players.

Italy top tier gets sub-4,000 battles daily.

Germany, Sweden, USSR, and USA all heap out 10,000 battles MINIMUM.

And Italy is almost always one lone tanker or max 3 in a match beside Germany, US, or Britain.

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You’re splitting hairs now.

It’s the players, if your gonna sit here and honestly say that the M1 is a bad tank in war thunder then I honestly don’t know what else to tell you.

The sad part is that SnailSoft will probably give into US demands(again) and give yet another unneeded buff.

It doesn’t need to be given up as other nations are also getting/have gotten their realistic reload rates.

Did you not read the last update notes or do you just have short term memory loss?

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What are you talking about? What does that have to do with anything?

You either give up the reload buff(which btw, the leo2 could also get to a 5 second reload) or you get the better round.

Nah. How bout the other 10.7 MBTs get the better reloads AND lose their 400mm+ pen shells instead? Then they’re closer in parity to the Abrams at least in firepower.

What, that’s no good? Aight then, Abrams gets M833 and the other tanks get better reloads and keep their current shells.

Ivans and West Tais lose out only because their autoloaders are garbage, but that’s a them problem since they skimped on engineering, but at least they keep their shells.