Precisely.
I don’t complain that T-72A at 9.3 gets ERA that deflects 774.
I don’t complain about T-72Bs at 10.3 getting ERA to deflect 774.
I’m asking for 833 for the Abrams. Nothing more, nothing less.
Most of those Russian tanks can absolutely soak a few hits if you know how to drive them, and as frustrating as it might be, I accept that that is historical and balanced.
The same can be true here for 833 being added as a fourth-tier round for the M1.
Oh yeah just did my own testing recreating where your pen on the leopard was that auto bounced and guess what im right mostly it autobounced like i said doing damage in the exact same spot
did i ever say you were a russian supporter? No.
If that’s the case, why doesn’t the same happen on the M1 Abram? Except the game makes it a shot trap that makes the APFSDS go through the turret ring unlike literally every other tank
Yeah, my experiences with you say otherwise
Arctic, I don’t mind you as much. You’ve never been one to really mess around with me. You got a good rep. Do you honestly believe my thought process here is completely screwed up here?
you can simply go to the old forums and watch how people treated these people, and some of them are the same people here. Please give back the US right ammo - General & Upcoming - War Thunder - Official Forum Abram survivability - Medium Vehicles - War Thunder - Official Forum
We’ve talked about this issue for years
9.0+ US tanks need M833 and why - General & Upcoming - War Thunder - Official Forum
gaijin doesn’t care
Dude, your very first response ITT after the OP is disingenuous. I was gonna make a post with a bunch of your disingenuous posts from just this thread in it, but it genuinely felt mean. You genuinely seem to treat any disagreement as a personal attack.
Ah yes, let me hit the same place twice… It would make more sense to give the shooters POV and not yours as yes, there’s a dead spot on the drivers hatc.
But let’s ignore this is what the M1 would fight and this is the normal penetration showing
Actually, let me also add that NO Object 292 players is gonna shoot the hull when the APFSDS goes through the cheek in excess of 2km…
Keep in mind that’s on flight ground and when I’m shooting down on people with type 93 out of a type 74 it will go through the top plate because 2° of angle can change a lot at top tier
Good thing soviet tanks have such poor gun depression that they cant make easy use of that at least not at closer range
yeah i’ve had rounds bounce off the bottom of tank floor up into the crew compartments of alot of tanks and im like " what an amazing shot "
Good thing Soviet style tanks aren’t the only thing that fights M1
something you and alot of others do every single day.
Lets be honest these people complain about soviet tanks 90% of the time its a fair assumption to make
You’re not wrong but you also can’t ignore the fact that a lot of the time it’s Western MBT on Western MBT with Soviets thrown in there and vice versa with the amount of sub trees and variants being able to fall on both sides
Yeah, take a shot from distance (ya know, like NORMAL gameplay experience) and you’ll see that won’t happen. Or the fact the armor analysis also shows APFSDS bouncing off the UFP and going through the turret ring (which, btw, is a known issue that people have been reporting for a while and even Gaijin admitted the armor is thinner than it should be).
Why would you shoot any tank’s roof from the front? Of course it’s gonna bounce because there’s not to drive the round into as like with EVERY other tank and shell (except maybe HE if you hit the MG or optic).
And I compared the THUMPER to the Object 292. Like what?
Also, in your video with the T90M v Leo 2A4 (which, idk why you’re using that tank v a 2A4 to try to prove richochet), you’re literally hitting the sliver of where it pens. It would make more sense to, oh I don’t know, use a tank that’s also 10.7? Of course one of the best rounds in the game from a 12.0 tank is gonna go through a 10.7 tank
Or maybe because it’s one of the 2 most popular tech trees so it’s seen a lot more often than every other nation, not to mention how the game combines teams? How does that change anything to do with M833?
